tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post1936619116197848170..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: I'm a bit happier now than I was a few weeks agoKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger6125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-77047198393514309402018-08-21T11:00:57.929+12:002018-08-21T11:00:57.929+12:00It isn't just the left who have shut down free...It isn't just the left who have shut down free speech, it is the rich and powerful who support globalism why support Mike Hosking:<br /><br />CORIN Let’s move on to the issue of immigration. Kerry McDonald, who’s a preeminent New Zealand businessman – for many years Comalco managing director – he wrote in a piece on his website just recently. He said immigration, and I quote, ‘The high rate of immigration is a national disaster.’ He said, ‘It’s lowering the present and future living standards of New Zealanders by serious adverse economic, social and environmental consequences.’ Now, this isn’t Winston Peters saying this; this is a respected economist and businessman who’s worried about immigration not because of who’s coming here but because we aren’t able to cope with the numbers.<br />....<br /><br />CORIN You don’t want immigration to fall, though, do you? I just want to say something. I saw you in a speech after the Budget, and you were speaking to a big room of businesspeople – some of the biggest business minds in the country – and you stood up and you said, “Don’t worry about Treasury’s figure or estimation that it will go back to the trend of 12,000.” You were confident it was going to be a lot higher than that.<br /><br />JOHN I just think it’s unlikely it will go to 12,000.<br /><br />CORIN But it was like you wanted immigration to go up, because you were telling them, “Don’t worry. The demand in the economy is going to stay there. That’s what’s keeping New Zealand afloat.”<br /><br />http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/PO1607/S00020/qa-prime-minister-john-key-interviewed-by-corin-dann.htmUnknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607028751724602829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-11933952301102966152018-08-21T10:56:06.995+12:002018-08-21T10:56:06.995+12:00One thing we overlook is that the media control fr...One thing we overlook is that the media control free speech by selecting whose voices are heard. For example Douglass Murray and Cornel West were here. Which one got to speak? The only review I can see was the Daily Blog<br /><br /><i>Murray’s intellect and laser like conservative logic is dazzling and what he argues for and about has depth, complexity and intelligence but the competing brilliance and moral certitude of radical compassion and revolutionary social justice preached by Dr West demands a call to action Murray occasionally matched but never beat. </i><br />https://thedailyblog.co.nz/2018/08/18/review-dr-cornel-west-douglas-murray-polarised/<br /><br />The same goes for Professor Paul Spoonley who is painted as a good old boy when he is an activist. It has been argued that today the two main ideologies are globalism and nationalism. Spoonley is the globalist. Where is Dr Greg clydesdale who was torn to shreds by Kim Hill, he has subsequently been vindicated. <br /><br />One thing I learnt when I went looking for my first house is that if you want the goods on a house you mention that house to an agent trying to sell you another house. In NZ's case "NZ has no tabloids" and the likes of Paul Spoonley think Molyneux and Southern should only have a platform on Youtube. Nigel Latta told his business audience "if we had this much coverage on Youtube we would be on Youtube"; what Spoonley is saying is that some voices should be pushed to the margins.<br /><br />Newshub cauterised the debate on race and intelligence with "widely debunked" referencing an article in the Guardian but ignoring a more recent article in NYT (David Reich) warning us to be ready for challenging findings. Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607028751724602829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-12682002634270302782018-08-20T12:11:13.678+12:002018-08-20T12:11:13.678+12:00The reason "hate speech" prevailed in Ge...The reason "hate speech" prevailed in Germany against the Jews in the 1930s was because Hitler shut down free speech after the burning of the Reichstag in 1933. That's when the Nazis also began to burn books. No views contrary to Nazi doctrine were permitted. I am not optimistic about the status of free speech in New Zealand. I was shocked by the venom against free speech and the gross distortions so recently purveyed by commentators in the media. I remain concerned that this government will try to bring in new laws to restrict free speech under the guise of banning "hate speech" against minorities. We have already seen the Human Rights Commission dabbling in this. We need to remain vigilant.<br /> Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-39815975203510111382018-08-16T16:48:53.179+12:002018-08-16T16:48:53.179+12:00Great re-cap, thanks. You're right about Bras...Great re-cap, thanks. You're right about Brash being reviled...only the other day I was speaking with a friend over a glass who blithely pronounced him an 'a---hole'off the bat, and then proceeded to concede that in fact others she knew who had an acquaintance with him had probably countered that. Her first instinct was character assassination... almost certainly on the basis she disagreed with his views and that he was, you guessed it, a SPM. She regarded the whole Massey fuss as a 'storm in a teacup'..cos it suited her to downplay it. And she holds a PhD, no intellectual slug...just as guilty of lazy triteness as the next person. So..I'm with Hugh! Re the next generations & their fragility..yes, they are far removed from any threats and so again, blithe spirits who would rather culitvate their 'wokeness' than their historical perspective.Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-57353303917121762312018-08-16T11:19:15.716+12:002018-08-16T11:19:15.716+12:00You may be right. I didn't say I was happy - m...You may be right. I didn't say I was happy - merely that I was happier than before. This fight isn't over, which is why the Free Speech Coalition (of which I'm now a member, after some initial hesitation) has resolved to keep going.Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-66237025317346460342018-08-16T09:09:02.117+12:002018-08-16T09:09:02.117+12:00You may be happier Mr du Fresne, but please, for t...You may be happier Mr du Fresne, but please, for the sake of articulate expression of thought and opinion, do not let your guard down for one moment. The fanatical Left may have backed off for a while, but only to draw breath.<br /><br />I love the term 'snowflake', its synonyms being 'precious petal' and 'plastic persona' (I also enjoy alliteration).hughvanehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/13655840089502084282noreply@blogger.com