tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post5539103744933858119..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Why the judicial conduct panel's secret inquiry can't possibly be about Judge CallinicosKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger12125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-48301262767518620372021-12-12T22:08:49.421+13:002021-12-12T22:08:49.421+13:00Well David, important comments. But as you know,...Well David, important comments. But as you know, our "mainstream media " will do nothing to hold this regime to account on this or any other matter. They are beyond contempt. <br />Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-39272603939412726252021-12-12T18:46:55.258+13:002021-12-12T18:46:55.258+13:00a Police Force "Scanning and Targeting Unit&q...<br /><i>a Police Force "Scanning and Targeting Unit" that carries out surveillance on people who express "anti government" sentiment: https://t.co/u4s1bqvlft.</i><br /><br />I don't have a high opinion of Cameron Slater. He has attacked me often enough in the past and frequently denigrates people I admire. But never, not for one moment, have I ever regarded him as some kind of threat to the nation who should be subject to any kind of police surveillance.<br /><br />I was speechless when I read what is at that link. And I read it again and again. <br /><br />It deeply worries me that the police have a unit such as revealed by that OIA that appears to keep tabs on outspoken people such as Slater.<br /><br />I am only slightly relieved that at least one senior police intelligence official was concerned enough to write a caution: <i>"I remain conscious of the need for objectivity and accuracy in all that we write. I had a sense of unease when I read paragraph 21 today where we wrote “Facebook disinformation site ‘The BFD’. Are we absolutely certain of our statement that The BFD could be fairly characterised as a disinformation site?"</i> <br /><br />I am also surprised, but pleased, that the Police released the material about Slater to him under an OIA. In my long experience, the more important the information, the more officials try to keep it secret. <br /><br />For example, I have been waiting for months now for MBIE to provide me with the numbers of people and their organisations given MIQ on their return from the Glasgow conference. I knew when I asked back in August that they would not want to make that public and they would stymie and stall my request, so I have not been disappointed. <br /><br />But the material about police surveillance of Slater to me seems much more important as a public interest issue than who took the gravy train to Glasgow, so all credit to the police for making it public. I have considerable respect for Andrew Coster, the commissioner -- he would have had the final say in releasing the material to Slater. Ka pai. <br /><br />I look forward to our "mainstream" media expressing alarm about what is revealed in that OIA. The media uniformly despise Slater (despite once being happy to use him as a source of gossip); but an intelligence unit that could spy on a Slater is conceivably not many steps removed from one that could spy on many of those journalists who despise Slater. I have had the police knock on my door in the past when they have not liked something I wrote; we live in more extreme times now than when that happened.<br /><br />As I said above, when Star Chamber is in session, nobody is safe. <br /><br />David McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572242600889192661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-24214683150416116242021-12-11T16:21:11.822+13:002021-12-11T16:21:11.822+13:00Star Chamber, a bought and paid for media, and a P...Star Chamber, a bought and paid for media, and a Police Force "Scanning and Targeting Unit" that carries out surveillance on people who express "anti government" sentiment: https://t.co/u4s1bqvlft. Boy, that all came together quickly.Odysseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745489060434244478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-53940397206713695832021-12-11T15:44:53.832+13:002021-12-11T15:44:53.832+13:00Quite right Karl, it couldn't be Callinicos, c...Quite right Karl, it couldn't be Callinicos, could it ? Nicely put Sir.<br />Bryan Flanaganhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02320352032708993268noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-14270656756920509992021-12-11T13:00:02.585+13:002021-12-11T13:00:02.585+13:00It is long time needed for an open transparent ove...It is long time needed for an open transparent oversight of this “ clubby racehorse owning set).<br />They are officers of the court and should be subject to independent oversight open to the hoi polloi. Even if we don’t own racehorses.another manhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04489160222626459921noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-83116113445047114482021-12-11T12:03:11.484+13:002021-12-11T12:03:11.484+13:00There is clearly a Star Chamber being conducted he...There is clearly a Star Chamber being conducted here. That it is being conducted by people who know very much what the Star Chamber was -- well, the judges among them, anyway -- makes this deeply disturbing.<br /><br />Our open court system was created to stop the abuse that was Star Chamber. That our judges would hold a Star Chamber against one of their own -- whoever she or he or they may be -- would have defied credibility only a year or so ago.<br /><br />Nobody is safe when Star Chamber is in session. David McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572242600889192661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-54533391451274885142021-12-10T21:01:56.340+13:002021-12-10T21:01:56.340+13:00Karl
You wouldn't be trying to call a secret p...Karl<br />You wouldn't be trying to call a secret panel out, would you? That will definitely be a black mark against you in the Minister's book. Though I don't think you would be worried about that.<br />The fact that this panel against Callinicos doesn't follow due process is very concerning. So much for following the law. I hope one of the opposition MPs reads your column. Bring it out into the light of day will be very enlightening. The Minister and PM will duck for cover so quick. Chris Morrishttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10557217407223228656noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-52077236620037817772021-12-10T19:40:21.123+13:002021-12-10T19:40:21.123+13:00This is deeply concerning Karl. In Ardern's ...This is deeply concerning Karl. In Ardern's Aotearoa it appears we not only no longer have a functioning Fourth Estate but an independent judiciary may no longer exist. The doors to dictatorship have been flung wide open. Incidentally as Ms Caine is not a judge what is she doing on the enquiry? Do her tribal affiliations earn her a place?<br />Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-66588469046746162862021-12-10T18:36:40.049+13:002021-12-10T18:36:40.049+13:00I was trying to make a point. Apparently not very ...I was trying to make a point. Apparently not very successfully....Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-55728691766509997912021-12-10T18:17:12.258+13:002021-12-10T18:17:12.258+13:00This comment has been removed by the author.Eamon Sloanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03551803651059076248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-62890216117989795572021-12-10T17:23:59.389+13:002021-12-10T17:23:59.389+13:00Yeah right. Yeah right. Kiwiwithttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10507667837257013301noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-64908535889129967592021-12-10T12:36:17.848+13:002021-12-10T12:36:17.848+13:00Open and transparent? Now where have I heard that ...Open and transparent? Now where have I heard that before?Terry Mhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07523590286071998930noreply@blogger.com