We have been here before. A post on this blog in November 2021 noted expressions of concern from journalists about hostility toward the media at anti-vax events. That post was headlined No one should be surprised by a backlash against the media and it still holds true.
I deplore attacks or threats against anyone lawfully doing their job, but people in the media need to ask themselves why animosity toward journalists – which has existed, to a greater or less extent, all the time I’ve been in the business – has been cranked up to an unprecedented level.
Part of the explanation can be found in an article that Currie quotes from. It was written in February last year by Mark Stevens, then head of news at Stuff. Stevens, who takes up a new job on Monday in an equivalent role at RNZ, noted that aggression toward journalists had increased and cited incidents of Stuff journalists being punched and having gear smashed.
Stevens (who I worked with when he was a very capable young reporter at the Evening Post in the 1990s) went on to say: “From time to time, news stories are published that rub a certain person, group or community up the wrong way. We often say in journalism that we can’t please everyone all the time. Nor should we. Holding the powerful to account, shining light on untruths and giving voices to the wronged isn’t always welcome or popular.”
This is the familiar narrative of the noble journalist on a heroic mission to uncover the truth, without fear or favour, and to make life uncomfortable for those in power. It’s an admirable ideal and one that appeals to journalists’ sense of self-worth, but I’m not sure the wider community has ever found it wholly convincing, and probably less so now than ever.
Then Stevens said this: “We publish a range of views, while avoiding and dismantling falsehoods, and we listen. But when you disagree, wipe the froth from your mouth first; we take criticism but cannot tolerate attacks, threats or violence.”
Let’s unpack that statement. “We publish a range of views”? That may certainly have once been true of the mainstream media, but it no longer applies. Just see how far you get with a letter to the editor in which, for argument’s sake, you challenge climate change orthodoxy, or suggest that the English language is being damaged by the increasing use of te reo (as someone I know did, and was told by the editor of the Dominion Post, when he asked why his letter was rejected, that he was a racist). Or try to get an ad published in which you assert that the word “woman” means “adult human female”, as both Family First and Speak Up for Women did, to no avail. In the case of Family First, every major paper in the country turned the ad down in a co-ordinated act – a conspiracy, effectively – of censorship. The “range of views” Stevens refers to is an increasingly narrow one, prescribed by media gatekeepers not on legal grounds, as might once have been the case, but on purely ideological ones.
Now, “avoiding and dismantling falsehoods”. Really? Who decides what’s false, and on what grounds? To use that same obvious example, who decided that “woman” no longer means an adult human female – a proposition still regarded, other than by an infinitesimally tiny and deranged woke minority, as an incontrovertible and objectively provable fact? The conceit that editors and journalists are able to determine what’s true and what’s false is a recent phenomenon, and one that has further eroded the already frayed relationship between the media and the public.
Then there’s this: “But when you disagree, wipe the froth from your mouth first.” The striking thing about this statement is its blatantly antagonistic posture. Stevens was characterising dissent as something that only mad and probably dangerous people would indulge in. He was overtly setting Stuff up in opposition to many of its paying customers. It’s a novel business model and it’s unlikely to end well.
Here we get close to the core of the problem. The media have effectively set themselves above the communities they purport to serve. They are interested only in people who agree with them; the rest can be dismissed as deplorables, to use Hillary Clinton’s infamous term.
The widening them-and-us relationship between the media and the wider community became starkly apparent during the Covid pandemic. Few journalists seemed interested in what motivated the hundreds of protesters camped outside Parliament. They preferred to look down on them, literally and figuratively, from the balcony.
Later came the shameful hounding of anti-vaxxers, when Stuff and other media outlets embarked on an orchestrated witch hunt aimed at demonising local government candidates who were deemed to hold the “wrong” opinions, or who were merely suspected of having links to so-called conspiracy theories. Not illegal opinions, mind you; just “wrong” ones. The frenzy reached a peak with Stuff’s overwrought – no, make that hysterical – Fire and Fury documentary. (Note: I was fully vaccinated myself so can’t be dismissed as anti-vax.)
To all this can be added the baneful consequences of the $55 million Public Interest Journalism Fund, aka the Pravda Project, the beneficiaries of which never seemed to consider the likely public perception that the media were being bought by the government. Even if their motives were impeccably pure, there was always going to be a suspicion that the money came with strings attached.
Meanwhile, levels of trust in the mainstream media continue to decline, newspaper circulations continue to shrink and New Zealanders continue to abandon traditional free-to-air TV – that means the 6 o’clock news, along with everything else – in favour of streaming services. It’s slow-motion suicide.
And having alienated a large part of their audience and driven them to alternative online platforms, mainstream media then clutch their pearls in horror at the thought that audiences might fall prey to “unsafe” content and “disinformation” from fringe sources. It would be comical if it weren’t so tragic.
How did this happen? My own theory, and it’s unlikely to be popular among today’s journalists, is that it had a lot to do with the transferral of journalism training from the newsroom to the lecture room.
Earlier generations of journalists learned on the job from other journalists. Many of my contemporaries came from working-class backgrounds. They didn’t go to university and were proud to regard journalism as a trade rather than profession. The importance of neutrality, fairness and balance was drummed into them. They had no delusions of grandeur about being on a mission.
But from the 1970s on, journalism was subjected to academic capture. Budding journalists were inculcated with a highly politicised vision of journalism’s purpose. They were encouraged to acquire degrees that were often based on esoteric theories far removed from the simple, practical concerns of good journalism. Over time, that has had the fatal effect of creating a widening gap between journalists and the communities they claim to serve. Even more dangerously, it has led journalists to think they are wiser and smarter than the people who buy newspapers and watch the TV news, and even morally superior to them. As the Marxist American journalist Batyar Ungar-Sargon puts it, they climbed up the status ladder and became part of the elite.
So if anyone wants to understand why so many people are now reacting against the media and even viewing them as the enemy, there you are. It’s not pretty and it’s not desirable, but no one should delude themselves about how we got to this point.
I’m writing this blog post on a Friday. For many years, Friday was the day I would meet a good friend, the late John Schnellenberg, for lunch in Masterton. We would talk about politics and inevitably the performance of the media would come up. I suspect John took a mischievous pleasure in goading me with disdainful remarks about journalists and I would always rise to the bait. It was my instinct in those days vigorously to defend the media. I’m sorry to say that wouldn’t be the case now.
Let’s unpack that statement. “We publish a range of views”? That may certainly have once been true of the mainstream media, but it no longer applies. Just see how far you get with a letter to the editor in which, for argument’s sake, you challenge climate change orthodoxy, or suggest that the English language is being damaged by the increasing use of te reo (as someone I know did, and was told by the editor of the Dominion Post, when he asked why his letter was rejected, that he was a racist). Or try to get an ad published in which you assert that the word “woman” means “adult human female”, as both Family First and Speak Up for Women did, to no avail. In the case of Family First, every major paper in the country turned the ad down in a co-ordinated act – a conspiracy, effectively – of censorship. The “range of views” Stevens refers to is an increasingly narrow one, prescribed by media gatekeepers not on legal grounds, as might once have been the case, but on purely ideological ones.
Now, “avoiding and dismantling falsehoods”. Really? Who decides what’s false, and on what grounds? To use that same obvious example, who decided that “woman” no longer means an adult human female – a proposition still regarded, other than by an infinitesimally tiny and deranged woke minority, as an incontrovertible and objectively provable fact? The conceit that editors and journalists are able to determine what’s true and what’s false is a recent phenomenon, and one that has further eroded the already frayed relationship between the media and the public.
Then there’s this: “But when you disagree, wipe the froth from your mouth first.” The striking thing about this statement is its blatantly antagonistic posture. Stevens was characterising dissent as something that only mad and probably dangerous people would indulge in. He was overtly setting Stuff up in opposition to many of its paying customers. It’s a novel business model and it’s unlikely to end well.
Here we get close to the core of the problem. The media have effectively set themselves above the communities they purport to serve. They are interested only in people who agree with them; the rest can be dismissed as deplorables, to use Hillary Clinton’s infamous term.
The widening them-and-us relationship between the media and the wider community became starkly apparent during the Covid pandemic. Few journalists seemed interested in what motivated the hundreds of protesters camped outside Parliament. They preferred to look down on them, literally and figuratively, from the balcony.
Later came the shameful hounding of anti-vaxxers, when Stuff and other media outlets embarked on an orchestrated witch hunt aimed at demonising local government candidates who were deemed to hold the “wrong” opinions, or who were merely suspected of having links to so-called conspiracy theories. Not illegal opinions, mind you; just “wrong” ones. The frenzy reached a peak with Stuff’s overwrought – no, make that hysterical – Fire and Fury documentary. (Note: I was fully vaccinated myself so can’t be dismissed as anti-vax.)
To all this can be added the baneful consequences of the $55 million Public Interest Journalism Fund, aka the Pravda Project, the beneficiaries of which never seemed to consider the likely public perception that the media were being bought by the government. Even if their motives were impeccably pure, there was always going to be a suspicion that the money came with strings attached.
Meanwhile, levels of trust in the mainstream media continue to decline, newspaper circulations continue to shrink and New Zealanders continue to abandon traditional free-to-air TV – that means the 6 o’clock news, along with everything else – in favour of streaming services. It’s slow-motion suicide.
And having alienated a large part of their audience and driven them to alternative online platforms, mainstream media then clutch their pearls in horror at the thought that audiences might fall prey to “unsafe” content and “disinformation” from fringe sources. It would be comical if it weren’t so tragic.
How did this happen? My own theory, and it’s unlikely to be popular among today’s journalists, is that it had a lot to do with the transferral of journalism training from the newsroom to the lecture room.
Earlier generations of journalists learned on the job from other journalists. Many of my contemporaries came from working-class backgrounds. They didn’t go to university and were proud to regard journalism as a trade rather than profession. The importance of neutrality, fairness and balance was drummed into them. They had no delusions of grandeur about being on a mission.
But from the 1970s on, journalism was subjected to academic capture. Budding journalists were inculcated with a highly politicised vision of journalism’s purpose. They were encouraged to acquire degrees that were often based on esoteric theories far removed from the simple, practical concerns of good journalism. Over time, that has had the fatal effect of creating a widening gap between journalists and the communities they claim to serve. Even more dangerously, it has led journalists to think they are wiser and smarter than the people who buy newspapers and watch the TV news, and even morally superior to them. As the Marxist American journalist Batyar Ungar-Sargon puts it, they climbed up the status ladder and became part of the elite.
So if anyone wants to understand why so many people are now reacting against the media and even viewing them as the enemy, there you are. It’s not pretty and it’s not desirable, but no one should delude themselves about how we got to this point.
I’m writing this blog post on a Friday. For many years, Friday was the day I would meet a good friend, the late John Schnellenberg, for lunch in Masterton. We would talk about politics and inevitably the performance of the media would come up. I suspect John took a mischievous pleasure in goading me with disdainful remarks about journalists and I would always rise to the bait. It was my instinct in those days vigorously to defend the media. I’m sorry to say that wouldn’t be the case now.
It is a great pity that Mr Steven sadly manifests an unconscious, if not a wilful, bias. A critical consciousness session- a struggle session- may be in order? A reading of John Milton's Areopagitica who also questioned the competence and qualification of censors.
ReplyDeleteI totally concur with your comments, Karl. I began my journalist career on the Marlborough Express (Blenheim) in 1961, so was definitely trained as one of the "old school". As you say, at that time there were no university/polytech courses, and my schooling regularly involved experiencing the wrath of a crusty chief sub-editor. Oddly, years later I spent a term teaching a Canterbury University journalism class, filling in for a tutor who was not yet ready to take up his new post. The irony is that I also applied for the post, but missed out because I had no formal qualifications, while he had the qualifications but no experience! In hindsight, I realised I escaped a bullet.
ReplyDeleteMy last position was in the newsroom of Radio NZ, Christchurch, from where I was made redundant in 1988 as a casualty of their numerous cost-cutting rounds. At the time, the creeping woke-ism was only just starting, under the watchful eye of the head of RNZ, Sharon Crosbie, of whom until that point I had had a favourable opinion. The entree was a booklet given to all staff, a list of newly-prohibited terms that involved any sort of male reference. Examples, included "manhole", "chairman", and "masterpiece". In a lovely up-finger, the then chairman of the Waimairi District Council (which took in a large part of northern Christchurch), a redoubtable lady by the name of Margaret Murray, refused to be called anything but Chairman.
I sealed my fate with RNZ by leaking a copy of the booklet to a fellow journalist at the now-defunct evening paper, the Christchurch Star. I was the first out the door in the next cost-cutting round. It was a merciful release, as by that time I was suffering depression but didn't have the courage to just walk away. My redundancy package was worth more than a year's salary, which was definitely appreciated and meant I didn't have to walk the streets immediately in search of a new job. (I actually wound up starting a graphic design company, which set me on a whole new career.)
I never considered journalism a "profession", and was never popular with my colleagues for saying so, nor for stating that I considered we were overpaid for what we did.
Now that we have the internet many of us read the global media and find stories about New Zealand that are barely mentioned here.
ReplyDeleteExamples include 1. Jacinda Ardern's speech comparing free speech to a weapon of war. 2. Chris Hipkins inability to define what a woman is. 3. Richard Dawkins argument about the NZ science curriculum. 4. Violent assaults on females by young men at the Posey Parker speech. 5. The IMF forecasting economic growth in New Zealand in 2024 as 158th out of 159 countries. 6. Lots of negative press about closed borders etc. It all gives the impression that the NZ media has an ideological agenda.
Some of the best journalism is now happening on alternative platforms. I enjoyed this piece from Sean Plunket's the Platform, today, which I was alerted to through Twitter. You've written about FACT Aotearoa yourself, I believe. Well, it turns out it is run by Labour and Green party activists, and is now funded by the government.
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I am one of the many thousands who have recently stopped subscribing to my local paper (STUFF, in my case) - and I used to be an absolute newspaper addict. I agree completely with you in what you write must be the reasons for the decline in trust in the mainstream media, the shrinking in newspaper circulation, etc.
ReplyDeleteI look forward to a string of bankruptcies – and I am fairly certain our new conservative government in October will not bail them out (like Labour did - and would gladly do again!).
I presume that each of the local papers and their many assets (traditional names, buildings, printing presses, etc.) must then necessarily be sold to the highest bidder. If you were younger, Karl, mightn’t you be tempted to try to raise a bit of capital - and emulate Rupert Murdoch??
I view RNZ as talkback radio for the unproductive elite
ReplyDeleteThanks Karl. I still read the occasional paper, but rarely do I not come across and article that comes from the perspective of an advocate not reporter.
ReplyDeleteTo single out one (but not the only one), Kirsty Johnson's series of articles about the family court and domestic violence had very little to do with journalism nor should have ever been claimed as such.
Ken Maclaren
Great column Karl. Many of us now turn to alternative sources of information, mainly through the access the Internet provides. However if Labour are re-elected, this avenue is likely to be heavily restricted by Labour's planned Regulator of Online Services, work on which they commissioned through the Department of Internal Affairs in 2021. Never have our freedoms, including access to impartial information and opposing views on a wide range of topics, been so much under threat. And the New Zealand media appear happy to be complicit in all of this.
ReplyDeleteGreat article Karl,however I must take issue with your comment that you were fully vaccinated.You were not.
ReplyDeleteWhat Stevens (in particular) fails to acknowledge, admit, and announce is the predetermined agendas that are all-pervasive in modern media.
ReplyDeleteWriters like Simon Wilson of the NZHypocrisy have lost a large level of respect or support simply because he is of a certain mindset, which determines the manner in which he approaches subjects, and writes … “as straight as a paper clip” said someone.
As commented in Michael Basset’s blog … “to the likes of XXXX [enter your choice of name], balanced journalism means a bias in each hand”. The term ‘prejudice’, meaning prejudged, may be used in place of bias.
Unless something spectacular, even miraculous, happens to change its direction and current philosophies, Stuff is on a hiding to oblivion. Let it implode and sink - unheralded. Same for RNZ news/current affairs anyone?
Well said . Though imo he change was after the 1970s. I attended the Wellington Polytechnic journalism course in. 1979 - and there was no tendency for journalism to be taught by academics and activists. The wider issue is whether the current failings can be countered, and msm can resume credibility. In my opinion it is so entrenched and we have made our bed and will have to lie in it - or continue the shift from msm to media we trust.
ReplyDeleteThe shift from newsroom training to an academic setting certainly dates back to the 1970s, but you're right: the politicisation came later.
ReplyDeleteKarl - Going by your writing, you seem like a sensible fellow. Why did you get the genocide jab?
ReplyDeleteClearly you've read me wrongly. I'm obviously not a sensible fellow.
ReplyDeleteGreat post Karl. Good on you.
ReplyDeleteIt got me thinking, as to how many conscripts of the Pravda Project, would've survived a 6-month apprenticeship at say, the Evening Post's Reading Room in the late 1960's.
Nick Theobald
This was an excellent piece. It should be required reading for aspiring or working journalists. I would take (mild) issue with one comment
ReplyDelete"Even if their motives were impeccably pure, there was always going to be a suspicion that the money came with strings attached".
That the Public Interest Journalism Fund came with strings attached seems more than a suspicion when you read some of the guff attached. Refer the following excerpt from NZ on Air on what the PIJF "must achieve":
3. Actively promote the principles of Partnership, Participation and Active Protection under Te Tiriti o Waitangi acknowledging Māori as a Te Tiriti partner
Nick Theobald,
ReplyDeleteHa! Quite so. (For the benefit of other readers: in the dark, unenlightened days before journalists were taught in academic institutions, most people wanting to become reporters had to complete a period of servitude in a newspaper reading rooms, where every word that went into the paper was checked for error. It was mind-numbingly tedious work - the most menial job in journalism. The rationale was that if you could survive a few months in the Reading Room, you could cope with any adversity.)
Dan,
ReplyDeleteYou're right, of course. I was talking about general public perceptions. Even without knowledge of the specific conditions under which money was accepted (which the beneficiaries of the Pravda Project unsurprisingly failed to disclose to their readers/viewers/listeners), any sentient human was likely to be suspicious.
I had an email from Stuff noting that I had cancelled my subscription to the Timaru Herald. It went on to offer me a fresh subscription at a 50% discount and the promise of either a free kitchen machine or coffeemaker. I concluded that things must be getting desperate. I hope that their ears are still burning from my reply.
ReplyDeleteGraham Wright
Another interesting point arises from Nick Theobald’s reference to reading rooms. We hear a great deal these days about the importance of diversity, but it’s a narrow, ideologically prescribed diversity. The typical newspaper reading room was a wondrously diverse collection of humanity in all its rich and often eccentric heterogeneity. The same was true, though to a slightly lesser extent, of newsrooms. I doubt that the same can be said of today’s newspapers, with their overwhelming preponderance of cookie-cutter journalism graduates whose ideology neatly conforms with the prevailing orthodoxy but who, paradoxically, are often incapable of writing even a simple news story.
ReplyDeleteMy first real newspaper memory is of the Hawkes Bay Herald Tribune where truly some of my early reading lessons occurred. I was featured in the Letters to the Editor column by a disgruntled neighbour complaining about some minor mischief I had performed. Early 1950s or thereabouts. I was not named but somehow my Dad knew who the letter was aimed at. Trouble for me followed. Later another neighbour wrote in to chastise the first neighbour for leaving temptations in place for children.
ReplyDeleteI have hazy recollections of the matter. The background and detail was filled in for me later in the growing up years. It might seem it was a small and curious part of what newspapers were occasionally used for then - neighbours sending coded messages to each other, and to identify the local mischief makers.
Newspapers and media all over have gone downhill badly since then. All of your comments are on target Karl. Today’s Gen X, Y, Z would hardly know what qualities to look for in a newspaper or other media. That is of course if newspapers and news organisations survive.
I have made a few complaints to the Press Council/Media Council. My advice there is don’t bother. If it is the NZ Herald you will certainly find yourself in a blind alley. If it is Stuff or The Dominion Post (aka The Post) you might find yourself under concentrated attack in return.
' ... most people wanting to become reporters had to complete a period of servitude in a newspaper reading rooms, where every word that went into the paper was checked for error. It was mind-numbingly tedious work - the most menial job in journalism. The rationale was that if you could survive a few months in the Reading Room, you could cope with any adversity.)'
ReplyDeleteI did my 'servitude' in the readers room at The Northern Advocate, Whangarei, in 1970. Two mornings a week, usually.
It was the most valuable exercise I ever did as a cadet reporter.
After 53 years I can still see myself seated next to Mrs Rutherford going through everything.
She was an eccentric. I think a lot of proofreaders were a bit that way. She was deceptively sharp.
But I learned, among other things, what subs subbed, and you could see why they made the changes.
It was the best 'learning experience' a young journalist could have.
On a different note I saw the other day the death notice for Peter O'Hara, who was a colleague of mine at the Advocate and who went on to hold prominent positions on newspapers owned now by Sinead Boucher, and also at TVNZ.
He was a good bloke.
- Paul Corrigan
Yes, Peter was a good guy and a top journalist, probably best remembered for his long career at the NZ Press Association. He died of cancer aged only 71. He's fondly remembered by many of his former colleagues.
ReplyDeleteAs a former NZ Herald reporter, I was newsroom-trained and my professional journalist teachers were scrupulous about insisting on balance, reporting both sides of a story, and even actively seeking out dissenting opinion. I agree with all you have written. The insertion of unsourced value judgements into stories was an absolute no-no in my day but seems increasingly acceptable in today's legacy media. The recent New York Times executive editor Dean Baquet thought he could enforce a greater balance in the NYT's political stories and investigations but had his fingers badly burnt by his young, activist newsroom and seemingly reversed course. The old days of jockstrap journalists facing a table-thumping Chief Reporter and being told to get their shit together have long gone.
ReplyDeleteThank you, Tony - good to hear from you. (For those who don't recognise the name, Tony was the founder of the Values Party - 1970s precursor of the Greens - and served two terms on Wellington City Council.)
ReplyDeleteHi Karl,
ReplyDeleteInteresting take, I despise the media, wrote the epic poem Journalists are Maggots, chalked it outside Dom Post several times, put up posters with it on and other poems. I'm 58 now but why I HATE media most now is they never told us what THE REFORMS of the 1980s actually were. They didn't say it is neo-liberalism and this is what is going to happen over time. I used to call them begging them to tell my story re ACC corruption and abuse - they would call police instead and demand they terrorise me with a WELFARE VISIT. Lots and lots of visits to my home - so many when I saw them coming I would quickly lock all the doors and hide in the bathroom, curled up in the corner I was so terrified. Now they refuse to come at all.
The maggot word referred to people who feed off the puss filled sore that is social decay - since the 1980s REFORMS. I protested for years about ACC illegally depriving abuse victims of Occupational Therapy etc and DHB hating abuse victims with the passion of violent fascists. I've been put under the Mental Health Act illegally FOR MY NON-VIOLENT PROTESTS, POETRY AND ART - it was abusive and staff drove another patient to suicide (I still punished and denied all health care for saying something, all formal complaints being ignored). Have 100s of false statements on my police file from those I protested in front of that I threatened to kill them WHICH I NEVER EVER DID - or that I would kill myself WHICH I NEVER EVER DID EITHER. I follow the Handbook on Civil Society - I'm allowed to be offensive in the face of persecution and injustice.
There is a lot more to the demise of media than what you understand from your position in society. I live in the darklands of hell in poverty, disabled woman, on welfare - the most HATED sector of society without any doubt. Even druggies, rapists and abusers get treated better, so long as they all good to work. They also get an extensive rehabilitation network - while their victims do not.
One of the things I would also note from reading some comments is this ridiculous idea of BALANCED REPORTING. THERE IS NOBODY WHO REPORTS FROM THE DARKLANDS OF POVERTY AND HELL IN NEW ZEALAND - NOBODY. Everybody who does make comment are also maggots making money out of the people they say they support. It makes me sick to my stomach when I hear volunteers at foodbanks etc saying how much THEY LOVE THEIR JOBS. You can be assured I DO NOT AND NEVER EVER WILL LOVE BEING FORCED TO BEG FOR FOOD, SHELTER, SAFETY, HEALTH CARE AND JUSTICE.
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Yes & YES. Nice to hear from Tony Brunt. My very first vote went his way.
ReplyDeleteOur family have subscribed to the Dom Post for the last 13 years and before that the Press in Christchurch. Post Albert Park, the highly skewed coverage, lack of anything even approaching balance and the overall endless stream of left wing advocacy "journalism" we finally couldn't take it any more and cancelled The Post. I'm sorry, but we aren't going to be preached at by a bunch of people who don't see the dangers to democracy of the cancellation of opposing voices and opinions, who don't immediately question the likes of the Disinformation Project who say the sky is falling but provide no proof. But then again, the Disinformation Project had views aligned with the journo's so nothing to question, right? The only voices of sanity, outside of the Free Speech Union (which we are now members), seem to be older or ex journo's and commentators, like yourself, who are trying to fill the gaps or at least question what is going on, and openly debate topics, something the current generation don't seem prepared to do. This is why Co-governance has turned into a contentious mess, they don't want to explain and debate it. My son, now at university, has been horrified at the ignorance of history among his own generation and their keenness for Marxist, Communist beliefs, and their inability to debate a topic and accept that others can have differing opinions. Young women, in particular, are all fed the same heavily left leaning agenda through social media, and get very offended when anyone challenges those beliefs. My son loves to debate, but he's learnt to be careful what he says, in case he gets cancelled. He started a first year International Relations course and first lecture the lecturer says "If you can't handle your beliefs being challenged, this is the wrong course for you". Even 10 years ago, that statement wouldn't have been necessary, but clearly is now. Love your blog Karl, keep up the good work.
ReplyDeleteExcellent article Karl, and a full summary of how the current situation regarding the media came to be. In a nutshell, they have bought their own destruction upon themselves. The sooner they file for bankruptcy, the better. And good luck to them trying to find employment with osme sort of journalistic qualification in an environment like this. It truly is tome to 'build back better', and return to true journalistic qualities, which is 'to serve the peoiple and hold power to account'.
ReplyDeleteWhat do you think of this Karl:
ReplyDeletePat Brittendon decides to cover the issue of Bradley Cooper's portrayal of Leonard Bernstein where he wore a prosthetic nose (which no one seems to think was a big deal).
e contacts a synagogue who point him to Jewish Council rep Juliet Moses. Having interviewed her for 30 minutes or so... waiting... waiting. It isn't aired.
Apparently a lot of negative feedback about Juliet Moses (the subject of the Hui walkout - He Whenua Taurikura). Pat has Mandy Hager on and with great reverence they discuss why Juliet Moses should not have been platformed.
What if a person knows about A but has the wrong sort of views about B?
It could be upsetting if they veer off the topic and therefore is unsafe to have that person.
Apparently Juliet Moses has the wrong views on co-governance and "women" (adult human female versus a bloke who identifies as a women).
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KmdbmSfKXfw&t=2477s
Going through a list of fallacies, it looks like
Ideology-Driven Argumentation
This occurs when an arguer presupposes some aspect of their own ideology that they are unable to defend.
https://iep.utm.edu/fallacy/#Accent