tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post3075540780592383358..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: On Roe v Wade and the media frenzyKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-33226866360339376152022-05-30T10:19:57.003+12:002022-05-30T10:19:57.003+12:00Roe v Wade Blog
Plessy v Fergusson 1896 ruled that...Roe v Wade Blog<br />Plessy v Fergusson 1896 ruled that segregation in Education was Constitutional so long as States provided facilities that were both separate but equal. It wasn't until 1954 in the Brown v Topeka that Separate but Equal was thrown out by the USA Supreme Court which effectively made ALL states desegregate education in the USA. It happened at the Federal level.<br />Reading Karl's well written piece on Roe V Wade, it appears that Roe v Wade case sorted out the Abortion issue at the Federal level and very much like Brown v Topeka with the segregation in Education issue. Roe V Wade provided a universal approach to the abortion issue in the USA. <br />It seems that the USA Supreme Court are now taking a Plessy v Fergusson approach by putting the abortion issue back into the hands of each state? <br />Should that be the case, then the USA Supreme Court is reverting back to a Plessy v Fergusson approach where there was a lot of separate but not a lot of equal!!! Such a retrograde approach will, in my opinion, further fragment the USA, putting one State against another. State A has abortion, State B does not. Women from State B will go to State A for an abortion. This was very reminiscent in the 1970s where, in New Zealand which did not have pro abortion laws, women flew to Australia to get an abortion.<br /><br />\Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/08990671491751955124noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-48450864249015806372022-05-29T08:26:39.170+12:002022-05-29T08:26:39.170+12:00PaulL..
Precisely my point.
There are fewer babies...PaulL..<br />Precisely my point.<br />There are fewer babies available to adopt because wome are not advised of this option.<br />If they want to abort, then, no questions asked. <br />The same goes for young people wanting to change their gender, no questions asked, rather, immediate affirmation of their decision.<br />CatrionaAnonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073568915869308158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-67678379858335034762022-05-25T09:53:37.456+12:002022-05-25T09:53:37.456+12:00Hugh Jorgan initially wrote a sensible, well-docum...Hugh Jorgan initially wrote a sensible, well-documented opinion about the social impact of Roe v. Wade. But he/she never mentioned simple human ethics – that are far more important to real human societies and to really human individuals’ lives. Yes, of course Roe v. Wade might have had some “beneficial” impact on the next generation – but so what? <br /><br /><br />Do we really just want to live as happy, contented animals - with the only purpose in our minds being to cater for our own selfish, physical well-being?? All the US Supreme Court is now doing is to leave it to each state’s legislators to wrestle with somehow balancing their legislation in the most ethical way. <br /><br />I welcome that development.<br />Andy Espersennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-37837223728393374812022-05-25T09:09:57.426+12:002022-05-25T09:09:57.426+12:00PaulL,
I think you meant to say adoption (not abor...PaulL,<br />I think you meant to say adoption (not abortion) isn't difficult because of the red tape.Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-6602962193831079062022-05-25T08:35:27.528+12:002022-05-25T08:35:27.528+12:00In my previous comment I wrote that the Wiki graph...In my previous comment I wrote that the Wiki graph suggested a total of 1 Million USA gun homicides over a 20 year period. I have revisited the graph and wish to correct the 1 Million figure down to about 300,000. Whatever I would still say the gun crime rate has certainly increased over the period. I would not want to be tossed into the “damned liars” bag when it comes to statistics. <br /><br />Back to the abortion subject. It has always puzzled me as to why so many Americans hold onto their gun rights while at the same time being on the anti-side of the abortion debate. The state of Texas really mixes things up with its gun laws, capital punishment and anti-abortion laws. Assisted Suicide as we now have in NZ is legal in only some USA states. Pro-life ought to mean Pro-life on all fronts. <br /><br />Texas I think was the first state to institute a heartbeat law making it illegal to perform an abortion once a foetal heartbeat is detectable – usually at six weeks. As usual the legal arguments are grinding on. Over whether it is a real heartbeat, and whether the cell structure at six weeks can be considered to be an actual heart.<br />Eamon Sloanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03551803651059076248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-61196046190302078922022-05-24T19:22:05.357+12:002022-05-24T19:22:05.357+12:00@Catriona: abortion isn't difficult because of...@Catriona: abortion isn't difficult because of red tape. It's difficult because very very few babies are available for adoption. The vast majority of adoptions in this country are either in-family adoptions (so an unwanted or unable to be provided for baby is adopted by grandparents, cousins or others), or international adoptions. However, international adoptions are significantly harder than they used to be, and by and large the kids available for adoption are quite severely disabled in one way or another. That's not a reason not to adopt - many do and love their children dearly. But it's not as simple as red tape being in the way.PaulLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17880559466808887420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-72546434943951888542022-05-24T14:25:09.180+12:002022-05-24T14:25:09.180+12:00Karl
You are more than welcome to call me Huge. I...Karl<br /><br />You are more than welcome to call me Huge. I was going to let the thread go but you have asked me a couple of direct questions, so I will do you the courtesy of replying. I also enjoy good healthy debate; I trust you do too. I'll address your points as raised:<br /><br />1. It goes without saying you are more than entitled to your opinions. This is, after all, your blog and, as noted above, I enjoy reading them. My comment that you seem to be very heavily emotionally invested in this particular subject stemmed from my surprise at the combativeness of your initial response, given that I wasn't actually disagreeing with you. I wasn't suggesting there's anything wrong with being emotionally passionate about a subject, as long as you understand that emotions can cloud judgement. As a fence-sitter, I can remain dispassionately objective but that doesn't mean you should dismiss anything I have to say out-of-hand. If you look back, you'll see I haven't actually expressed an opinion on the subject, I merely referred your readers (and you) to some interesting analysis that points to a possibly significant unintended consequence of overturning Roe v. Wade that nobody seems to have considered. And, no, I'm not a genius.<br /><br />2. Linking the 'two Steves' findings to the Nazis' extermination of people with mental and physical disabilities is drawing a very long bow indeed. This is "perilously close" to the sort of hysterical hyperbole you frequently (and quite rightly) accuse the 'screeching left' of, and served to exacerbate the hawkishness of your, as noted above. Like me, the two Steves weren't suggesting that legalised abortion was the answer to getting the crime rate down, they were merely making observations on the data they'd analysed.<br /><br />3. I am well aware of the 'house rules.' I've neither resorted to an ad hominem attack, nor had 'a whack' at you. Surely you don't deem healthy debate as having a whack at you? And I'm not "sheltering" behind a pseudonym (the obvious implication being that I'm a coward). I have chosen to post under a nom de plume as I work in a highly political environment, and my employer may not be overly happy that I read your blog. I hope that you can understand this.<br /><br />I wasn't going to reply to Eamon Sloan either, but now that I've gone to the trouble of typing all this...<br /><br />Eamon - Putting aside the fact that I wasn't making an "assertion," but rather was referring readers to third parties who had made some interesting observations for further consideration in the legalised abortion / Roe v. Wade debate, allow me to point out the logical failings in your argument.<br /><br />For a start, you have conflated gun homicides in the US with its crime rate. Without wanting to state the obvious, the scope of criminal activities is much wider than just gun homicides. Secondly, you have honed in on the number of deaths, rather than the number of incidents. This may sound like semantics, but in the context of this debate it's an important point. The issue here is the increased incidence of mass shootings, which have been in a clear uptrend since 2000, meaning that, whilst the number of people killed in gun homicides has risen dramatically, the number of people pulling the trigger hasn't increased at the same rate. A secondary consideration to this same point is the type of people inclined to commit a mass shooting. To my mind, and without wanting to waste a whole lot of time on Google/Wikipedia (as I'm sure you will) they seem to be mainly disaffected youths from predominantly middle-class backgrounds.<br /><br />And I make no apologies for your lack of a sense of humour. My nom de plume wasn't meant to 'insult' anybody; I certainly haven't insulted myself.Hugh Jorgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-59236097872079872082022-05-24T14:02:23.570+12:002022-05-24T14:02:23.570+12:00I notice, Karl, that you and one or two of your Co...I notice, Karl, that you and one or two of your Commenters have used the term "pro-choice" to mean pro-abortion or pro-death. Pray tell what is the choice that they are pro ? Is it the choice whether to kill an innocent child or to not kill an innocent child. What kind of civilisation would consider that an acceptable choice ?<br />There is no problem nor difficulty for which an acceptable solution is the deliberate killing of an innocent person. I had even a Greenpeace activist agree with that.<br />"Pro-choice" is political language, as alluded to by Orwell. It is deployed to make pro-abortionists seem lovely people who just seek to protect freedom. Use of that term only advances the approval of abortion.<br />As for the perils of politically-appointed court judges, I fancy that such process has its benefit. It would seem that our courts are another institution, like our tertiary education and our news media, that have been overwhelmed by left-wing ideology, perhaps feminism. And we, the general public, have no control over that.<br />If our Supreme Court judges were politically appointed, our general election votes would be of some influence.Leonoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-41539538067972729392022-05-24T08:54:05.986+12:002022-05-24T08:54:05.986+12:00The woke left are really tying themselves up in kn...The woke left are really tying themselves up in knots on this one. You state in your blog "... it’s amusing – in an ironic way – to hear activists wailing that a bunch of mostly male judges in Washington DC have made what they condemn as an “ideological” decision."<br />As the Babylon Bee (beloved web site of Elon Musk) pointed out, now that men can get pregnant they absolutely have a right to have an opinion on abortion...https://babylonbee.com/news/update-men-allowed-to-have-opinions-on-abortion-now-that-progressives-say-men-can-get-pregnantAnonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-75703796158574395532022-05-24T08:11:44.002+12:002022-05-24T08:11:44.002+12:00An important read, thanks Karl.
I recently called...An important read, thanks Karl.<br /><br />I recently called a well-known radio announcer 'MAD', meaning 'Media 'A'word Dodger'. Not very clever, I admit, but it now seems to me that everyone seems to be dodging the other 'A' word, meaning, 'Adoption'.<br />As I understand it, there are so many couples wanting to adopt but can't cut through the red tape.<br />Surely, if adoption were made easier, these babies theatened with abortion (and their families 'threatened' with a life of crime) could be SAVED.<br /><br />Catriona Kynoch<br />Anonymoushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12073568915869308158noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-43729119972314822192022-05-24T06:56:33.175+12:002022-05-24T06:56:33.175+12:00Huge (may I call you that?)
Three points:
1. If by...Huge (may I call you that?)<br />Three points:<br />1. If by suggesting I’m “very heavily emotionally invested in this topic” you’re saying I have an opinion on abortion – well, yes. You don’t need to be a genius to work that out. But you also seem to be implying that my judgment is therefore suspect, and that as an acknowledged fence-sitter, your opinion is more “objective” and therefore more valid. How does that work?<br />2. You didn’t arouse my ire and I wasn’t putting words in your mouth. I was simply trying to point out the implications of following the Freakonomics authors’ theory to its logical conclusion.<br />3. You’re obviously not new to this blog so you should be familiar with the house rules, which are that if commenters want to have a whack at me they shouldn’t shelter behind pseudonyms. <br />Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-45925422775513532912022-05-23T22:33:46.575+12:002022-05-23T22:33:46.575+12:00To Hugh Jorgan. I am on the same page as Karl on a...To Hugh Jorgan. I am on the same page as Karl on all facets of this subject.<br /><br />Your assertion that USA crime rates have reduced may be well off the mark if we consider USA gun deaths where gun homicides have doubled over the last 20 years. Try this Wikipedia reference: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gun_violence_in_the_United_States<br /><br />The graph indicates that over a 20 year span gun homicides total out to maybe 1 Million plus. The per annum total is up from 10,300 in 1999 to over 20,000 in 2020. It confounds me how you can say USA crime rates have decreased. <br /><br />As to the matter of your pseudonym, which I regard as a straight out vulgarity, well you are insulting only yourself.<br />Eamon Sloanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03551803651059076248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-45258950741139577412022-05-23T13:21:06.755+12:002022-05-23T13:21:06.755+12:00Karl
I'm pleased you can see the humour in my...Karl<br /><br />I'm pleased you can see the humour in my nom de plume, although I'm not sure why it would give you cause to not take the point raised seriously.<br /><br />With all due respect Karl, you have come perilously close to putting words in my mouth and, from a casual observer's perspective, you seem to be very heavily emotionally invested in this topic, to the point where even valid *objective* considerations seem to raise your ire.<br /><br />I enjoy reading your blog and it's fair to say our respective worldviews are pretty closely aligned. Note that I prefaced my comment with a disclosure that I'm a fence-sitter on this issue; I'm neither advocating for, nor against the legalised abortion debate. But I felt it was a worthwhile point for your readers to consider.Hugh Jorgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-21391094779047129742022-05-23T12:40:35.720+12:002022-05-23T12:40:35.720+12:00Hugh Jorgan
Your jokey pseudonym makes it hard to...Hugh Jorgan<br /><br />Your jokey pseudonym makes it hard to take your comment seriously, but since you raise the point ...<br />It seems to me your argument comes perilously close to justifying abortion as a coldly pragmatic matter of administrative convenience - i.e. to spare the state the trouble of having to deal with a possible "problem". Isn't that what the Nazis did when they ordered the extermination of people with mental and physical disabilities? <br />Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-66090490260944320972022-05-23T11:11:51.340+12:002022-05-23T11:11:51.340+12:00I'm somewhat of a 'fence-sitter' on th...I'm somewhat of a 'fence-sitter' on this debate, I can see the pros and cons of both sides of the argument and I don't have strong feelings either way. Having said that, of all the comments above it was the points raised by PaulL that impressed me the most.<br /><br />But there is one other consideration, the 'elephant in the room' if you will, that nobody (including Karl) seems to have given much thought. I suggest you all read, if you haven't already, Freakonomics by Steven D. Levitt and Stephen J. Dubner.<br /><br />The two 'Steves' argue, supported with empirical evidence, that the precipitous decline in the US' crime rate in the 1990s was a direct result of Row v. Wade, in that legalised abortion meant there were fewer children being born into households that were capable of giving them a decent upbringing. Prior to Roe v. Wade a significant proportion of those kids went on to lead lives of crime and incarceration.<br /><br />The majority opinion in Roe v. Wade, written by Justice Harry Blackmun, acknowledged the would-be mother's predicament: "The detriment that the State would impose upon the pregnant woman by denying this choice altogether is apparent...Maternity, or additional offspring, may force upon the woman a distressful life and future. Psychological harm may be imminent. Mental and physical health may be taxed by child care. There is also the distress, for all concerned, associated with the unwanted child, and there is the problem of bringing a child into a family already unable, psychologically and otherwise, to care for it."<br /><br />Ask yourselves what the societal impact might be if legalised abortion is overturned.Hugh Jorgannoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-23079188484681912502022-05-23T11:06:37.120+12:002022-05-23T11:06:37.120+12:00When in these discussion I always ask those who be...When in these discussion I always ask those who believe in the right for women to kill unborn children (abortion is such polite term for this) whether they also believe in euthanasia another polite word that means killing sick and old people.<br /><br />Invariably they do so I go for the trifecta and ask how they feel about capital punishment.<br /><br />The usual reply is of course not as killing people is wrong and the courts sometimes are wrong and you could kill an innocent person.<br /><br />I don't recall anyone having the awareness to understand what they have just said.Russell Parkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01998289720002196469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-71304016705810964422022-05-23T09:10:18.148+12:002022-05-23T09:10:18.148+12:00Hi Andy. I agree with much of what you say but .....Hi Andy. I agree with much of what you say but .... National will never join labour.<br /><br />You only need to look at the calibre of the candidates in both parties as exhibited in the current Parliament.<br /><br />This old quote sums it up for me.<br /><br />"At the start of the seventies, Kim Beazley Senior told an ALP conference “When I joined the Labor Party, it contained the cream of the working class. But as I look about me now, all I see are the dregs of the middle class.”Gary Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03808045522267423028noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-82475786396817905152022-05-22T17:58:13.299+12:002022-05-22T17:58:13.299+12:00I note we all somehow think “Left” is pro abortio...I note we all somehow think “Left” is pro abortion – while “Right” is against. I believe that in our democratic countries we should stop using those quite inadequate adjectives in politics. Social welfare policies and economic issues (the original, true left/right issues) are now actually accepted by everybody – though perhaps only to a greater or lesser degree. It would not surprise me if National joins permanently with Labour within the next decade – leaving ACT New Zealand as our only conservative political party. <br /><br />But today's really big problems : abortion, climate change, Covid, gender policies, racial policies, etc., are not left versus right questions. These are conservative versus liberal questions – or better still (I think) fall into the categories Thomas Sowell, in his seminal book, “A Conflict of Visions (Ideological Origins of Political Struggles)”, discusses as constrained and unconstrained visions. <br />Andy Espersennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-68563032800603503432022-05-22T13:50:47.107+12:002022-05-22T13:50:47.107+12:00Wellington Scoop are very much on the Left when it...Wellington Scoop are very much on the Left when it comes to accepting comments on their site. Occasionally I am gratified by slipping one past the keeper but generally they refuse to publish anything that challenges their Leftist orthodoxy on a wide range of subjects from city planning to the "climate crisis". Most annoyingly they sometimes publish your comments after they have heavily edited them to the point of meaninglessness, or even so that your comments appear to support their point of view. New Zealand "journalism" today.<br /><br />On the substantive issue I think it is a good thing the Supreme Court appears to be poised to send abortion back to the States where it belongs. Finding abortion as a "right" in the Constitution is as mythical a claim as finding "partnership" in the Treaty.Odysseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745489060434244478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-17554384567982692922022-05-22T12:09:42.303+12:002022-05-22T12:09:42.303+12:00Well and good but the one thing neither abortion a...Well and good but the one thing neither abortion activists nor commentators bring up, is the remedy to abortion. This is called contraception - many different methods, with condoms being possibly the least reliable. When I was young I had 2 babies 11 months apart - but when I went onto contraceptive pills, I had none till I got 'clucky' and went off them. The young women who get pregnant rely on condoms or else luck, with predictable consequences.<br />Really young (and younger)women need to deliberately decide to go onto contraceptives BEFORE they become sexually active. I know it's not romantic to do so, but it is a responsible grown up action. And if taken as per directions, no pregnancy, no abortion, no regrets down the line.Glennnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-38063880860117306042022-05-22T07:11:03.985+12:002022-05-22T07:11:03.985+12:00Yes Paul, agree with most of that.
The founding pr...Yes Paul, agree with most of that.<br />The founding principle; the right to "life, liberty and the pursuit of happiness" contains a potential conflict. Assuming it is written in order of priority the right to life takes precedent over the right to liberty. I think that's reasonable but we've just compromised over the question arising from that by pretending that the unborn is somehow not a human life at all. Well "what the hell is it then" is the obvious question.David Georgehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04883628159193125307noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-73261811805808482802022-05-21T18:56:48.431+12:002022-05-21T18:56:48.431+12:00A few different points.
Firstly, yes it is a flaw...A few different points.<br /><br />Firstly, yes it is a flaw that things can be found in the constitution, then unfound at a later date. However, I would argue that the current court composition, largely being constitutional originalists, is much less likely to find things that aren't there, and therefore much less likely to be overturned. That is to say, if the Supreme Court largely returns to reading the words in the constitution and then arguing only about exactly what those words mean (or meant at the time of writing), then there will be a lot less room for disagreement. It should also mean that ideology becomes a lot less important (other than the constitutional originalist bit). In turn, this will force many more things to be decided by elected representatives, rather than magically found via judicial means.<br /><br />Secondly, I think this is really healthy. The problem with finding rights through a judicial interpretation process is that they tend to be all or nothing. Either all abortion is legal, or no abortion is legal. But when these things are decided through a political process, most countries have settled on abortion being mostly legal first trimester, mostly illegal third trimester, and some grey in the middle depending on the country. This is a durable settlement, whereas the all or nothing is much more fragile. <br /><br />Third, I don't think the slippery slope argument to killing 11 year olds works. When a baby is in the womb, there are competing rights. The mother's right to her bodily autonomy, the baby's right to life. Often when pro-choice and pro-life people are arguing, they're arguing past each other. Pro-choice activists are arguing that women have a right to do what they want with their body - you can't force them to carry a baby. Pro-life activists are arguing that it's not OK to kill babies because they're inconvenient. And both are right. Once the baby is born this conflict goes away - you are actually fine decide you don't want your baby any more - the government will take them off your hands (without your consent sometimes), they can be fostered or adopted. It's not a conflict between two competing rights anymore. I see some on here failing to recognise this conflict - and any argument that ignores one of these two conflicting rights is destined to fail.PaulLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17880559466808887420noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-25637804952697416382022-05-21T17:09:44.489+12:002022-05-21T17:09:44.489+12:00Yes, hysteria & frothing before we even have t...Yes, hysteria & frothing before we even have the decision, just a leaked opinion. The matter of the leaker is going to be really interesting and probably almost as histrionic, assuming they pin them down, and it can't be that hard, surely.<br />While on twitter one night soon after this leak I scrolled into a shocking photo of an aborted near-fullterm baby that some anti-abortion zealot had posted...I'm sure it would have been taken down ...you may've heard of the notorious American abortionist scandal there where advanced-term bodies were found by cleaners and there is an criminal investigation on-going...gruesome and it gave me sleepless nights. I've said it here before...eternally grateful I never faced it. My position as a younger woman was pro-choice in the early weeks of pregnancy but I've become opposed to anything but the morning-after pill now. Ghastly business and it's shameful the things some women say to trumpet their pro-choice cred. Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-50094739670209276872022-05-21T08:31:49.756+12:002022-05-21T08:31:49.756+12:00It has long puzzled me how the "pro choice&qu...It has long puzzled me how the "pro choice" lobby could approve of a woman's "right" to destroy (i.e. kill) the baby in her womb and somehow describe it as being a "woman's choice". Using this logic (woman's choice) it would be quite acceptable to kill the baby, or child, once it is born. Madame Blavatsky has described this very well.<br /><br />The hysterical reaction that you described above is so so typical of the Left's reaction to any dissenting opinion. Time after time we see examples of the outraged Left attacking any individual that disagrees with them. Always attack the dissenter, never actually debate or discuss the issue. A very typical example of this is the vitriolic condemnation as a "climate [read:- Holocaust] denier" any person who questions, criticizes or simply analyses apocalyptic doom merchants claims of human induced climate Armageddon.Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-36327025408756143932022-05-20T17:58:57.318+12:002022-05-20T17:58:57.318+12:00I was waiting for your comment on this issue. Here...I was waiting for your comment on this issue. Here it is - and I am not disappointed. Thank you, Karl. <br /><br />However, I believe it is not a "flaw in the system" that Supreme Court judges are appointed on the basis of ideological leanings. Fact is, we all (if we are serene human beings) have "ideological leanings" to some degree. For judges to be slavishly bound to one, and one only, interpretation of legislation must be wrong. We might as well then have robots sitting as judges. <br /><br />Concepts of societies change over the decades. Nothing must be cast in concrete. Humankind is on a dynamic course.<br /><br /><br />Andy Espersennoreply@blogger.com