tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post426154640341181899..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Orwell saw this comingKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger18125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-14086048474521324962021-02-10T10:28:30.380+13:002021-02-10T10:28:30.380+13:00Ricardo says that 93.79% of protest were peaceful ...Ricardo says that 93.79% of protest were peaceful but, conveniently, neglects to mention that this refers to 7750 protests. By my calculations this means that 543 protests were anything but peaceful. Rioting, looting, arson and murder were a nightly phenomenon for months.Bonzohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01107619221542910915noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-89128712318997995592021-02-02T22:31:00.757+13:002021-02-02T22:31:00.757+13:00This comment has been removed by the author.Eamon Sloanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03551803651059076248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-24637095661817485442021-02-02T16:01:28.070+13:002021-02-02T16:01:28.070+13:00Certainly using the term "stone age people&qu...Certainly using the term "stone age people" is asking for trouble these days and the cancel culture bandwagon leapt on by various sponsors and a sports team was unfortunately predictable.<br /><br />The unfortunate thing is that its now unacceptable to discuss what should be a serious question in that were pre European Maori a stone age people or not?<br /><br />The growing of crops, organised migration and early navigations skills would suggest not. Entrenched tribal warfare, cannibalism and slavery suggest its a fair label.<br /><br />It probably would take a anthropologist enlighten us but alas apparently we are not grown up enough to find out.<br /><br />Shame because as a New Zealander I would really like to know.Russell Parkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01998289720002196469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-91704673780644076252021-02-02T08:02:18.284+13:002021-02-02T08:02:18.284+13:00The credibility of the Nobel Prize Committee is ve...The credibility of the Nobel Prize Committee is very suspect, as we all have observed.<br />Al Gore, the IPCC, the U.N. and a variety of third world activists.<br />The difference is that most of the above activists given Peace Prizes were actually activists for peace.<br />BLM aims, as I noted previously, are Marxist, anti-family, destruction of Western Society.<br />Not peaceful.Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-15360346931762068972021-02-01T21:43:05.014+13:002021-02-01T21:43:05.014+13:00It was not "web pages".
It was just b...It was not "web pages". <br />It was just basic MSM news on TV One.Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-68864699018181359992021-01-31T17:02:07.542+13:002021-01-31T17:02:07.542+13:00Doug you had better tell the Nobel Prize Committee...Doug you had better tell the Nobel Prize Committee this and fast. BLM has just been nominated for the Peace Prize. They must not be reading the web pages that you do.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-79136992490413384792021-01-31T16:52:21.903+13:002021-01-31T16:52:21.903+13:00Your opinions are based on your interpretation of ...Your opinions are based on your interpretation of the data, like everyone this is influenced by your own life. The fact you need gritted teeth to listen to an opinion that only mildly disagrees with yours is unfortunate. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-4982482415897534262021-01-31T13:33:34.673+13:002021-01-31T13:33:34.673+13:00The BLM movement is a self declared Marxist based ...The BLM movement is a self declared Marxist based movement. On their website they made a clear declaration that one of their objectives was the elimination of the Western paternalistic family unit. Translation - the destruction of Western civilisation as we know it.<br />This declaration was quickly removed from the BLM website when it became obvious that they had shown their hand a bit too much.<br />Now - we all saw on the news: the burning buildings, the ransacked pharmacies and department stores. Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-63528680418702902272021-01-31T09:02:17.425+13:002021-01-31T09:02:17.425+13:00CXH, my opinions are based on the evidence and dat...CXH, my opinions are based on the evidence and data I have read and seen. If you have real data which shows a different narrative I would be most interested to consider it. Any denigration on my part has been intended for opinions, unsupported by evidence, that cause harm and misinform. <br /><br />I try never to denigrate people for their opinions, but to denigrate only their opinions. If I have conveyed denigration ad hominem then I am sorry for that impression.<br /><br />I disagree with what you say but I will defend your right to say it (even through gritted teeth).Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-53894178835697592612021-01-30T16:53:18.700+13:002021-01-30T16:53:18.700+13:00Your claim that BLM is a righteous movement expres...Your claim that BLM is a righteous movement expressing truth is just your opinion. Unfortunately you seem to treat it as a fact to ignore and denigrate anyone with a different opinion. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-3406120202656967992021-01-29T17:10:27.457+13:002021-01-29T17:10:27.457+13:00Trev1 When peaceful protesters are met with tear ...Trev1 When peaceful protesters are met with tear gas, baton charges, rubber bullets and militarily equipped authorities, there is a far higher chance of escalation, violence and damage. The evidence shows that this is what indeed happened in a small number of cities ref ACLED.<br /><br />There will always be a criminally minded minority element looking to take advantage.<br /><br />However nothing you or CXH or Odysseus emit as a smokescreen of false equivalence deflects the truth that BLM was and is a righteous movement expressing truth to a history of oppression, hatred and violence.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-31874780465023364782021-01-29T16:18:02.346+13:002021-01-29T16:18:02.346+13:00@Ricardo. At least 25 killed and insurance claims...@Ricardo. At least 25 killed and insurance claims in excess of $2 billion from riots in 140 cities according to media. That doesn't sound very "peaceful". But you say "93.79%" of the demonstrations were non-violent; such an amazingly precise figure to two decimal points sounds more like the result of a North Korean leadership poll.Trev1https://www.blogger.com/profile/00271717267778957672noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-76567900393918356352021-01-29T15:29:08.846+13:002021-01-29T15:29:08.846+13:00Agree entirely Karl. Bunch of cowards. Who cares w...Agree entirely Karl. Bunch of cowards. Who cares what Banks et al says on peurile talkback...better out than in. Remember Paul Holmes' cheeky darkie' moment...had the usual suspects fizzing at the bung at what was clearly satire? If this wasn't, well...I still don't care. Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-89388846615834259902021-01-29T15:13:37.901+13:002021-01-29T15:13:37.901+13:00CXH, I don't understand your invention of &quo...CXH, I don't understand your invention of "pleasant outing". Let's examine the data and the evidence. My evidence comes from the Armed Conflict Location and Event Data project (Acled), an organization that has long tracked political violence and unrest in regions around the world, together with Princeton University’s Bridging Divides Initiative.<br /><br />With regard to BLM, the findings are clear. The US Govt and authorities were much more likely to intervene with force, using teargas, rubber bullets and pepper spray or beating demonstrators with batons. This was vividly seen again in the treatment afforded the insurrectionist traitors invading the Capitol (selfies, opened doors) compared to the BLM protest at the Lincoln memorial (armed to the teeth) or clearing Lafayette Park (tear gas and batons) for a Trump photo Op.<br /><br />Furthermore, most of the non-govt violence was white KKK extremist males using guns or cars.<br /><br />So again let's confront the truth please, even if it offends.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-19939693295581831922021-01-29T13:10:51.330+13:002021-01-29T13:10:51.330+13:00I would agree the first comment went to far. Howev...I would agree the first comment went to far. However the protests were also far from the pleasant outing you seem to indicate they were. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-82895124340529214812021-01-29T11:02:32.581+13:002021-01-29T11:02:32.581+13:00Wow. "...the BLM movement whose looters, arso...Wow. "...the BLM movement whose looters, arsonists and murderers ravaged US cities in 2020."<br /><br />I think it is important to call out this sort of lie, (outrageous, persistent and insidious) straight away. Of the 9,000 approx BLM protests in 2020 across the USA, 93.79% were non-violent. Don't take my word for it, go to the US Crisis Monitor. <br /><br />Why did the protests take place? Not to loot, burn or murder but to protest systemic deaths of black mem, like George Floyd who took 9 minutes to die under the boot of Derek Chauvin.<br /><br />The ACLED database (impartial, non-profit) shows 25 deaths associated across 9,000 protests with a healthy representation of white armed males shooting protesters.<br /><br />It is precisely these sorts of lies, unchallenged and untested, fervently promulgated, that serve as the lifeblood for so much of the hatred and vitriol we see. Surely in New Zeakand we can do better.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-66036299084847527912021-01-29T09:37:39.436+13:002021-01-29T09:37:39.436+13:00Perhaps "Neolithic" "should have be...Perhaps "Neolithic" "should have been used rather than "Stone Age"? It's more accurate and less pejorative. As for corporate boycotts, some of those involved are the same entities that fawned over the BLM movement whose looters, arsonists and murderers ravaged US cities in 2020. Many were sickened by the sight of the New Zealand cricket team "taking the knee" to that movement earlier this year. For the corporations involved it is a form of lazy, bankrupt virtue signaling. But in moral terms it bears out Lenin's prediction that "the capitalists will sell us the rope with which we will hang them".Odysseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745489060434244478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-48441034894579131312021-01-28T15:57:15.541+13:002021-01-28T15:57:15.541+13:00Well said. Well said. The Slippery Slopehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02607796709933068301noreply@blogger.com