tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post6331822740436151627..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Harassment of Baha'isKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-92094487822061706532008-06-20T00:10:00.000+12:002008-06-20T00:10:00.000+12:00The proposition expressed here of sending e-mail’s...The proposition expressed here of sending e-mail’s to the Iranian embassy in the hope of catalysing change to minority religious rights in that country has an air of innocent naivety about it.<BR/><BR/> While it can be considered under Western values and norms as an accepted method to put pressure on some states to sway their rulers to think again, this proposal put to the Islamic Iranian Republic regarding the abuse of their religious minorities is yet another example of the ignorance of Western thought that insists on filtering the Middle East through the prism of Western values where it is thought every situation can be solved by talking through problems with rulers who they falsely perceive to be receptive to fairness and equitableness and where everything is negotiable, every conflict is susceptible to a deal.<BR/><BR/>Considering the exhaustive high power face to face negotiations conducted over time under the worlds eyes and ears that have taken place between the West and Iran’s negotiators with all the maneuvering by Iran over their highly suspected rogue nuclear development and the West offering deal after deal which has resulted in achieving absolutely nothing, and putting to one side the ruling supremacist Islamic jurisprudence pertaining to other religions other than Islam the consideration by Iran of a few e-mails pale’s into insignificance.<BR/><BR/>The writing of Andrew Bostom and others as referenced by the above red pill gives a historic account and appreciation of the Islamic jurisprudence that governs the mindset of those current rulers of Iran and other strict Islamic states in the Middle East.Serumhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10225042687611459867noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-75844394885580633812008-06-19T18:03:00.000+12:002008-06-19T18:03:00.000+12:00ApologiesAndrew Bostom not Londonhttp://www.andrew...Apologies<BR/>Andrew Bostom not London<BR/><BR/>http://www.andrewbostom.org/component/option,com_frontpage/Itemid,1/Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-35276363854043545222008-06-19T18:02:00.000+12:002008-06-19T18:02:00.000+12:00KarlThese might also help get a realistic perspect...Karl<BR/>These might also help get a realistic perspective on what daily life is like for a Dhimmi.<BR/>Andrew London is more academic than Bat de Yor if you want to buy a book.<BR/><BR/>http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/anti-semitism/Jews_in_Arab_lands_(gen).html<BR/><BR/>http://www.peacefaq.com/dhimma.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/archives/000265.html<BR/><BR/>http://www.lumponablog.com/?page_id=127<BR/><BR/>http://www.frontpagemag.com/Articles/Printable.aspx?GUID={42701DCA-1037-40F9-A22E-390A16894531}Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-41122896138164674102008-06-19T17:55:00.000+12:002008-06-19T17:55:00.000+12:00KarlThe people of the book (Jews and Christians) c...Karl<BR/>The people of the book (Jews and Christians) can become Dhimmi and pay jezyra (a head tax) for being insulting at not converting but they don't lose their lives.<BR/><BR/>They are also 3rd class citizens behind Muslim women and Apostates (temporary as not killed yet) and are treated as such.<BR/>Your wife and kids won't ever be safe.<BR/><BR/>Pagans (anyone not of the book) can't become Dhimmi so must be killed.<BR/><BR/>Do a Google on Dhimmitude or Dhimmi.<BR/><BR/>Wikipedia will tell you most conversions of Dhimmis later were voluntary.<BR/>Bullshit.<BR/>Voluntary in that we'll treat you as dirt until you convert.<BR/><BR/>www.jihadwatch.org<BR/>www.dhimmiwatch.org<BR/>www.dhimmi.org<BR/>www.dhimmi.com<BR/><BR/>The 1.5 million Armenian massacre in the early 20th century by Turkey came about because the Armenians didn't want to be Dhimmis any more.<BR/><BR/>Hence as far as the Muslims overlords were concerned "they had broken the contract that they accepted when conquered" so all protections ceased and were duly massacred.<BR/><BR/>Modern Turkey won't acknowledge the truth of this and as a result no one in Europe wants them in the EU.<BR/><BR/>Which of course no one wants to acknowledge either as it's a can of worms as then they have to publicly examine Dhimmitude and Islam.<BR/><BR/>Not something weak willed/valued Western countries want to do being so PC.<BR/><BR/>Of course having Muslim populations of 4-12% living amongst them adds spice to that conundrum. <BR/><BR/>We in NZ only have 35k right now, (though with every refugee bringing in 6 others on family repatriation that will change if the number of Muslims in the 750 quote keeps up), so we can have this open conversation if not drowned out by the PC Labour/Greens crowd.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.com