tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post6772738107385526455..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Who represents the greater threat to democracy right now - Action Zealandia or the Dominion Post?Karl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger32125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-36909297529171933822022-10-15T20:24:21.797+13:002022-10-15T20:24:21.797+13:00Importantly Stuff no longer has to rely on ads and...Importantly Stuff no longer has to rely on ads and subscriber funding. It is govt funded so go woke go broke does not apply it is go woke get a benefit ...as much as you need . The Herald allows some dissenting voices but I see them less and less. Its hierarchy (and all its cartoonists) tick the same boxes as Stuff Paul Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06436937288807192352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-28640082290184072562022-10-15T20:17:44.496+13:002022-10-15T20:17:44.496+13:00Candidates anyone even
Even shakespeare is a tar...Candidates anyone even <br />Even shakespeare is a target the writer of the following is actually a ''Maori'' activist and ticks all the boxes in the woke genre (she can it is a sort of freeish society) but the withdrawal of funding is driven by the govt's academic allies ...all about decolonisation....pathetic.....the writer's view is in line witj Stuff's policy and values or it would not be allowed <br /><br />https://www.stuff.co.nz/national/130183317/to-be-or-not-to-be-that-is-the-question-new-zealand-cancels-shakespeare<br />Paul Petershttps://www.blogger.com/profile/06436937288807192352noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-36625477727475951262022-10-01T13:23:03.665+13:002022-10-01T13:23:03.665+13:00Thanks for following up on this, Karl. Stuff's...Thanks for following up on this, Karl. Stuff's crusade against local body candidates in the up-coming elections who hold views contrary to the approved ideology, pose a serious threat to democracy in New Zealand. All power to your pen!Rodgernoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-12763841049462305352022-09-29T22:27:43.510+13:002022-09-29T22:27:43.510+13:00If you want to radicalise someone, destroying thei...If you want to radicalise someone, destroying their life is going to be the fastest way to do it.<br /><br />The far left are a terrorism factory.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-3442542644654480482022-09-29T22:20:39.910+13:002022-09-29T22:20:39.910+13:00There’s been some interesting speculation over at ...There’s been some interesting speculation over at http://waikanaewatch.org as to whom Paparoa is:<br /><br />https://waikanaewatch.org/2022/09/26/pushing-back-against-the-stuffers-5/<br /><br />You would think that the Dom Post and other publications might follow<br />Such leads up. But then they will know who they are dealing with, and for some reason they feel not mentioning the extremely political, historically and arguably still radical, individuals who are behind it would merit a mention. Why wouldn’t they mention who they are given that the names of those said to be involved are known and published, now - out there. <br /><br />Perhaps there are potentially embarrassing links to the government or the Prime Minister’s office that would make it and them look like they were embroiled in a sinister communist plot that would make Lenin proud?<br /><br />Like Karl, I am only willing to speculate, but if someone is to provide a lead, the correct and balanced thing for a real journalist and a serious publication would be for them to follow it up.<br /><br />“But Nazis…” just doesn’t cut it.<br /><br />Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-48784029001273127672022-09-29T22:13:53.319+13:002022-09-29T22:13:53.319+13:00The person who set Paparoa up certainly has intell...The person who set Paparoa up certainly has intelligence links.<br /><br />Once upon a time he would have been of concern to domestic intelligence. Now he is apparently a government consultant.<br /><br />The red army marches on.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-6182855979441039332022-09-29T15:36:21.324+13:002022-09-29T15:36:21.324+13:00The really concerning thing here is that the Dom h...The really concerning thing here is that the Dom have taken the word of a shadowy organisation and blown up someone's life. Fair cop if he is a bad guy but never on the word of some mysterious group. If they have credible evidence, they should publish it or if it came to them from an Intelligence Service, we deserve to know that also.<br /><br />Surely what is occurring here is a breach of some code or other or perhaps a breach of Human Rights? Supremely worrying. Democracy and established rules of engagement have left the building and we are fast approaching the end game. It is all under attack and we dont have enough transparency to be able to judge why democracy is being smashed beneath us. The important thing is - can we stop it and how do we stop it?ZTShttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04428960440667642145noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-15429792508341247522022-09-29T09:52:19.715+13:002022-09-29T09:52:19.715+13:00I would welcome a comment from him but haven't...I would welcome a comment from him but haven't received anything. Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-77195386338368421162022-09-29T08:49:57.413+13:002022-09-29T08:49:57.413+13:00Jordan Milburn's email address is listed on hi...Jordan Milburn's email address is listed on his candidate statement. I sent him an email pointing the way to this post and suggesting it gave him a fair platform to respond.<br /><br />It is possible he is not clearing his email but unlikely so unless Karl has elected to not publish any response, which I do not for a moment think he would, it would seem Jordan Milburn has no comment.Gary Petersnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-41956434298820166342022-09-27T11:37:04.984+13:002022-09-27T11:37:04.984+13:00If the "far right" win an election as ha...<i>If the "far right" win an election as has happened in Sweden and Italy, are they still far right?</i><br /><br />The way the media has campaigned against the "wrong" candidates up and down the country in these local body elections, I will not be surprised if they call National "far right" in next year's general election and campaign against that party. As for ACT, well they are beyond the pale.David McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572242600889192661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-55121871052635295062022-09-27T08:49:29.642+13:002022-09-27T08:49:29.642+13:00If the "far right" win an election as ha...If the "far right" win an election as has happened in Sweden and Italy, are they still far right? After all they represent the majority of voters.<br /><br />Russell Parkinsonhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01998289720002196469noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-59254633741306968692022-09-26T17:50:01.966+13:002022-09-26T17:50:01.966+13:00I subscribed to the Dominion Post for 30 odd years...I subscribed to the Dominion Post for 30 odd years and generally thought it an excellent publication - particularly under Tim Pankhurst.<br /> However I cancelled my subscription a couple of years ago. A number of factors influenced my decision.<br />The editorial bias in favour of the government. That nearly all the columnists were labour cheerleaders/ very anti National. If you were to read Jane Bowron's columns over the years you would think that John Key and Bill English were NZ's equivalent of Pol Pot and Josef Stalin. <br />Finally (and when I look at Stuff nothing has changed) the "cartoonists" who unremittingly attack the National party. Given that they are not even in government I find it astounding that by my estimation 65% of cartoons are attacks on National. With the abject performance of this Govt I would have thought that there would be enough material to last years. In particular, Sharon Murdoch must have a clause in her contract, where she is exempted from any cartoons which criticise, lampoon or poke fun at the current Govt.<br />Perhaps the Dominion thinks that because Wellington is left leaning that it's content need to appease that base. If so, they are very much wrong. <br />Frederick Williscrofthttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15922198045123534424noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-6163912734427017292022-09-26T14:55:18.310+13:002022-09-26T14:55:18.310+13:00Some refreshing news from good old Europe.
https:...Some refreshing news from good old Europe.<br /><br />https://www.dw.com/en/italy-election-exit-polls-show-right-wing-alliance-set-to-win-live-updates/a-63230549<br /><br />The downfall & clean out of the dictatorial western 'rules based ultra-liberal order' is now well under way. Let's hope this hits all the pathetic, woke, pseudo left, virtual signaling, globalist loser's as hard as possible.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-44917997797633528542022-09-26T13:12:50.972+13:002022-09-26T13:12:50.972+13:00Thanks Karl
The journalists and editors of the Do...Thanks Karl<br /><br />The journalists and editors of the Dominion, Stuff and their fellow traveler's fail to realise they are alienating large numbers of ordenary New Zealanders who have had a guts full of their unashamed political bias and advocacy journalism.<br /><br />There must be a market for this nonsense but I'm guessing it's diminishing rapidly. It will all become obvious when a future Government ceases pushing Covid Advertising dollars and public interest slush fund money to them.Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-16827122140310647422022-09-26T11:31:56.050+13:002022-09-26T11:31:56.050+13:00Really sad though, is to live in a capital city wi...Really sad though, is to live in a capital city without a newspaper. Remember the big fat authoritative paper of ? years ago that everyone had hurled at their gate? When it stood for the country itself - The Dominion. Maybe we were just less politically aware then, but it meant something. Nowadays we not only won't subscribe, we won't read the poor thin scrap at no cost in the library. EPnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-9586524970033783752022-09-25T20:53:20.122+13:002022-09-25T20:53:20.122+13:00I found this a soothing read: Agatha Christie, ‘Mu...I found this a soothing read: Agatha Christie, ‘Murder is Easy.’ For it’s very humorous characterisation of the media. <br /><br />If we lose our sense of humour I think we’re pretty much you know what’d.<br /><br />My very recent experience with Stuff News, in which I consider them unethical, is that they are hypocrites and bullies who think they are saving the planet. They have some kind of out of control collective messianic complex - if I were to attempt a clinical diagnosis.<br /><br />So called progressives honestly believe they are building the future for their docile, agreeable descendants to inherit and thank them for. They cannot imagine the next generation simply ungratefully destroying everything they set up for them. <br /> <br />Wokeness is when you are having a dream that you are awake when everyone else is asleep. Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-1434264750208569502022-09-25T13:00:55.425+13:002022-09-25T13:00:55.425+13:00"These women claim to champion the voices of ..."These women claim to champion the voices of the downtrodden and marginalised, while ruthlessly seeking to shut down dissent and demonising anybody who disagrees with them.<br /><br />They bleat about how committed they are to openness and transparency while using media teams to deflect scrutiny away from their actions." Lillian Andrews, writing in Thursday's edition of the Australian Spectator about Ardern (whose photo graces the article), and her ilk.<br /><br />Stuff has become to all intents and purposes part of Ardern's media team. They appear to think this gives them free rein to use their position to bully and crush people who hold different views. We will remember what they did.Odysseushttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04745489060434244478noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-54298713786938462372022-09-25T11:33:58.453+13:002022-09-25T11:33:58.453+13:00Nobody cares whether you are telling the truth. It...Nobody cares whether you are telling the truth. It’s only considered when the person imparting it has some sort of reputation, but that is being chipped away at and we are told that even Sean Plunket, a big pro-vax guy, is a conspiracy theorist.<br /><br />Nope, the truth only matters when it comes from an established mouth, and there needs to be some follow-through from a more mainstream publication or group of voices for something to even be considered as possibly true.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-35319338412222628092022-09-25T09:56:03.005+13:002022-09-25T09:56:03.005+13:00To "Anonymous" (sigh ... )
I presume you...To "Anonymous" (sigh ... )<br />I presume you're referring to the individuals named in the comments submitted (again, anonymously) but not published about Paparoa.<br />This is a blog that, like many others, consists principally of comment and observation. It doesn't purport to engage in investigative journalism. To do that would fundamentally change its character. It would also require a lot more work and I devote enough unpaid time to this blog as it is. (I do get a very modest emolument from advertising revenue, but it's a token sum.) If you feel strongly that these people should be exposed, why don't you do it yourself?<br />Incidentally, I was never editor of the Dominion Post.<br />Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-23677807451695678912022-09-25T09:19:32.199+13:002022-09-25T09:19:32.199+13:00I think last week the NZ media's obsession wit...I think last week the NZ media's obsession with the Sam Uffindell story proves how out of touch they have become. The public just isn't interested in what he got up to at school. Many of us are interested in the current nepotism saga in the Government but the media keep a distance on that story. I don't bother reading Stuff's articles outing candidates who have views Stuff doesn't like.Philhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05289240834173890159noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-33576955248163502862022-09-25T08:02:00.476+13:002022-09-25T08:02:00.476+13:00Hi Karl.
With respect, you are the former editor ...Hi Karl.<br /><br />With respect, you are the former editor of the DomPost with a popular blog.<br /><br />A journalist worth his salt would call the named individuals to check if the facts given were correct.Anonymousnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-45756689830162938422022-09-25T06:26:27.779+13:002022-09-25T06:26:27.779+13:00I've received several anonymous comments purpo...I've received several anonymous comments purporting to identify the people behind Paparoa and other so-called "antifa" (anti-fascist) groups. But I'm unable to verify them, and I suggest that if these commenters are confident of their facts they should publish them under their own names rather than expect me to do it for them. If I did that I'd be guilty of the same sin I've criticised the Dominion Post for. In any case I have no interest in promoting febrile conspiracy theories, no matter which side they emanate from. Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-75053386997281261982022-09-24T21:35:22.812+12:002022-09-24T21:35:22.812+12:00Great work, Karl. These journalists and antifas ar...Great work, Karl. These journalists and antifas are one and the same. There's clearly some sort of agenda afoot. And I don't just mean with this council candidate - the corrupted media witch-hunting individuals all across the country, subverting New Zealand's voting system. Whatever doesn't fit the bill of the globalised neoliberal marketing is tarnished by whatever brush best suits... racist, sexist, fascist, homophobic, neonazi, you name it an they try to use it against someone. Normal New Zealanders getting harassed by the out of touch media and activist classes who've clearly got their sights set on something broader for this once great country.Simon Bechumnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-24924133522914846332022-09-24T18:12:02.954+12:002022-09-24T18:12:02.954+12:00Bravo, Karl. Not the first time this sort of thing...Bravo, Karl. Not the first time this sort of thing is happening in free countries - I well remember McCarthy'ism in the United States. Eventually their Supreme Court squashed all that undemocratic nonsense. <br /><br />This could happen here also - if only some individual (like Milburn) could afford to, and did, sue The Dominion for libel. But who can afford that? <br /><br />But I am not against people being investigated by our security services for anti-democratic and anti-New Zealand actions. When I was applying for New Zealand citizenship in 1964 I myself was forced to make a special trip to Wellington (from Nelson) to explain my membership of Bertrand Russell's "Ban the Bomb Movement". And if I had not gone, I would not have received my citizenship - as simple as that.<br /><br />As it is, this will only put people even more off reading The Dominion Post, with their silly little so-called journalists - and with their incapable editor.Andy Espersennoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-17456588079416478822022-09-24T17:56:56.723+12:002022-09-24T17:56:56.723+12:00Paparoa is associated with Antifa in NZ. Gooogle t...Paparoa is associated with Antifa in NZ. Gooogle the 2 orgs together. Antifa is violent far-leftboudiccahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/16305676662683376805noreply@blogger.com