tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post7171109843733340147..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Freedom of speech, Rachel Stewart-styleKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger9125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-28777840589218061362017-12-05T07:06:07.137+13:002017-12-05T07:06:07.137+13:00Kim Hill
Not many tears shed for Steve Bannon gene...Kim Hill<br />Not many tears shed for Steve Bannon generally speaking around the world because he seemed to be quite frank, a particularly unpleasant person, what do you think?<br />Harry Horton<br /> “Well he certainly held anti-globalist, nationalist views, populist views, he was driving the populist agenda that is at the heart of Donald Trumps administration. And I think a lot of people in the white house would be happy to see the back of him as well.<br />Saturday Morning, 9:25 am on 19 August 2017 <br />.........<br />Listening to the Kim Hill interview the point about it being in the charter<br /> (g) reflect New Zealand’s cultural identity, including Māori language and culture:<br />(e) stimulate, support, and reflect the diversity of cultural expression, including drama, comedy, literature, and the performing arts:<br />Is an appeal to authority argument. As it doesn't say what or how.<br />Guyon Espiner "admits he enjoys winding those sorts up". In How to Win Friends and Influence People advises: "If you want to gather honey you don't kick over the beehive", so what is with the culture at "RNZ".<br />DB said that they don't need Te Reo on National Radio as there are umpteen Maori language stations. KH replied "but you are against segregation Don". That would have got anyone, but maybe the answer would be something like "yes, but I support separate toilet cubicles"<br />Don could have gone on the counter attack. Ranganui Walker points out how Maori were ignored by the politicians over immigration policy and have now been over taken by Asians. That couldn't have happened without help from the media. RNZ have been very vocal in their support for demographic change [Smart Talk at The Auckland Museum - Auckland is an Island/ A Slice of Heaven -Smart Talk at The Auckland Museum]<br />New Zealand Immigration and the Political Economy<br /><br />By Ranginui Walker <br />Published in The Social Contract <br />Volume 4, Number 2 (Winter 1993-1994) Unknownhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/15607028751724602829noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-27486907306015017142017-12-02T16:06:01.014+13:002017-12-02T16:06:01.014+13:00If you want to glimpse where where we are headed, ...If you want to glimpse where where we are headed, Pat Condell describes the present situation in Britain in the following youtube clip. <br /><br />https://youtu.be/WJzDmZDfQI8Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-74126547548259161402017-12-02T14:23:19.871+13:002017-12-02T14:23:19.871+13:00Thank you Karl for an excellent post. I read that ...Thank you Karl for an excellent post. I read that piece and came to similar conclusions. You reminded me of a time I wrote at piece for the student magazine Chaff on the Civil Unions back in 2003. I got the same level of abuse including some very nasty emails. I did respond to some accusing me of being a homophobe with "what else you got? That term doesn't mean anything anymore". By challenging them and refusing to surrender to being labelled, it made them frustrated and without any further line of arguments.Michael Wyndhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12323632941060268210noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-57450778011996785672017-12-02T11:07:16.091+13:002017-12-02T11:07:16.091+13:00Thanks David. You've just provided a pretty su...Thanks David. You've just provided a pretty succinct summary of the reasons I shun the KJA.Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-50586636397068388412017-12-02T10:56:26.701+13:002017-12-02T10:56:26.701+13:00could David please identify the Camp Mother for us...<i>could David please identify the Camp Mother for us?</i><br /><br />The group's Constant Moderator, Karl. Everyone who follows that group sees her in action many times a day.<br /><br />It's an interesting group, with many members who disapprove of the "wrong" news being published and dislike the expression of views contrary to their own; and other members who stand up for high journalistic standards who are often dismissed as "trolls" or worse, as mean "nit-pickers". <br /><br />I don't know whether to weep or collapse with laughter there some days, but it is an addictive place. They announced this week that any member subjected to three complaints to the moderators by any (anonymous) member would be banned forthwith, which will make it even more of an echo chamber than it usually is.<br /><br />But I stay there despite being blocked and invited to leave, as they would cheer if I threw my toys out of the sandpit. It's more fun watching them do it daily!David McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572242600889192661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-48196846407388558132017-12-02T10:36:21.308+13:002017-12-02T10:36:21.308+13:00For the benefit of those who don't know of it,...For the benefit of those who don't know of it, the KJA referred to above is the Kiwi Journalists' Association group on Facebook. I don't go anywhere near it, but could David please identify the Camp Mother for us?Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-85657634040065028272017-12-02T10:24:33.181+13:002017-12-02T10:24:33.181+13:00Karl, you've coined the ultimate insult. A tru...Karl, you've coined the ultimate insult. A true beauty!<br /><br /><i>"You racist, sexist, homophobic misogynist denier, you!"</i><br /><br />All it needs to encompass all of today's Despised Ones is to add in something like "male and at the higher end of the age bell curve," a whole new insult hurled last week at senior male journalists by the Camp Mother of the KJA FB group. Oh and we are trolls, too, according to her.<br /><br />So: <i>"You're a racist, sexist, homophobic misogynist, denier troll at the higher end of the age bell curve!"</i><br /><br />PS: I felt Kim's interview with Dr Brash was one of her flattest. And I really enjoy Guyon's te reo nga korero. Ma te wa.David McLoughlinhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07572242600889192661noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-86086880715471176162017-12-01T20:43:24.668+13:002017-12-01T20:43:24.668+13:00Thanks Karl. We have arrived at a time where a go...Thanks Karl. We have arrived at a time where a good number of Kiwi’s can define political correctness, identity group politics, and the totalitarian impulses of the political left. Even if they cannot articulate it they intuit its self-righteous sneering, and moral preening.<br /><br />What happened to dialogue and debate? The testing of ideas in the public domain?<br /><br />One of the reasons I cannot help but like Milo Yiannopoulos is that he knows how to press their buttons, and to defeat those foolish enough to engage him publically. Recently in Australia he was publicly denounced as a white supremacist, (hardly likely for someone married to a black guy). <br /><br />It appears that name calling is reserved for those whom they most despise, yet usually refuse to debate. It’s all somewhat tedious really, especially as you note, these folks dominate our MSM.<br />Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-89347508461462188192017-12-01T13:34:07.841+13:002017-12-01T13:34:07.841+13:00Another great post Karl. Thank you for it.
Best w...Another great post Karl. Thank you for it.<br /><br />Best wishes to Don Brash for Saturday morning.Barryhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/14062114725862850124noreply@blogger.com