tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post7971699292774245625..comments2024-03-26T10:03:51.827+13:00Comments on Karl du Fresne: Another contender for the free-speech Hall of ShameKarl du Fresnehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comBlogger11125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-5666631382645675222021-07-09T09:10:12.393+12:002021-07-09T09:10:12.393+12:00I heard a very apt comment from Kate Hawkesby toda...I heard a very apt comment from Kate Hawkesby today on ZB talkback. Kate was commenting on the current trend towards woke cancel culture and hate speech etc.<br /><br />Kate said "It is becoming a badge of honour to be a victim."<br /><br />What a sad state of affairs!!Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-33542536483979276522021-07-08T14:14:00.245+12:002021-07-08T14:14:00.245+12:00Yes. Here we go again...again. I don't go nea...Yes. Here we go again...again. I don't go near the Spinoff for it's ocean of Smug fair carries me away...screaming, in the opposite direction. But I'm pretty sure our kids think it's all gospel. Good to know it's Scotty Effing S...apt. <br />The army essay? And what 'values' precisely does it not adhere to? Can't imagine how it's remotely controversial. Ha! Hilary Taylorhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/00240590567749247083noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-19866587705092738752021-07-08T11:43:14.017+12:002021-07-08T11:43:14.017+12:00I agree Karl.
Scotty Stephenson's abusive rant...I agree Karl.<br />Scotty Stephenson's abusive rant told us more about him and his nasty character than it did about the subject of his incoherent tirade.<br />Apart from that idiot, the theme of your article is very relevant. Namely the shutting down of any non-woke or critical comment, or even any comment that might be perceived to be non p.c.<br />One excellent example of this occurred a few years ago, when the Australian, Jan Thomas, VC of Massey University, to her shame, banned Don Brash from speaking at Massey, because his views that all citizens should be treated equally, were "racist".Doug Longmirehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/12008729336442910333noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-1262732165567242862021-07-08T10:14:22.711+12:002021-07-08T10:14:22.711+12:00Karl
Good suggestion regarding the "hall of ...Karl<br /><br />Good suggestion regarding the "hall of shame" for those who despise free speech, particularly when exercised by others with whom they disagree.<br /><br />I'd encourage readers of your blog to make a personal submission to humanrights@justice.govt.nz regarding their views about the proposed "Hate Speech" legislation. The Government has clearly misread public opinion on this matter, however the more we can do to reinforce our commitment to Free Speech, the better.<br /><br />The Ministry of Social Development is also taking submissions on ways to improve "social-cohesion" in New Zealand, as though some Government program can remove racism and bigotry from the human heart. If you would like to make a submission, their response questioner can be found here: https://social-cohesion.citizenspace.com/social-cohesion/public-consultation/<br /><br /> Brendan McNeillhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02741263914308842497noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-56263408779740855552021-07-08T09:48:13.143+12:002021-07-08T09:48:13.143+12:00The F word used to be used (a) to affect an air of...The F word used to be used (a) to affect an air of toughness and (b) signal contempt for bourgeois values, but it has lost any force it once had. Now it's just tiresome and puerile. As you say, Eamon, it tends to be deployed when valid arguments have run out. Karl du Fresnehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05054853925940134404noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-6527062398636952572021-07-08T08:52:03.570+12:002021-07-08T08:52:03.570+12:00The editors at Spinoff are part of the new age deb...The editors at Spinoff are part of the new age debaters. Abuse or what they consider a witty put down has taken the place of debate or discussion. Unless it is someone they disagree with dishing out abuse, then it is just hate speech. CXHhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07716356211635024878noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-74811228557168142842021-07-07T22:15:15.876+12:002021-07-07T22:15:15.876+12:00This comment has been removed by the author.Eamon Sloanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03551803651059076248noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-40521752682515262882021-07-07T21:32:30.413+12:002021-07-07T21:32:30.413+12:00And I meant to add that if having a warrior focus ...And I meant to add that if having a warrior focus in an infantry battalion is extremism, then going too fast at the Indianapolis 500 is dangerous driving.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-4605186580404408652021-07-07T20:29:45.172+12:002021-07-07T20:29:45.172+12:00So Scotty will now publicly express disapproval of...So Scotty will now publicly express disapproval of locker room talk?<br /><br />Yeah, right.B DeLhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17216624274781157449noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-35255658531320427582021-07-07T18:04:18.702+12:002021-07-07T18:04:18.702+12:00On a related example I see that Stuff gratuitously...On a related example I see that Stuff gratuitously commented that the Defence Force was trying to eliminate extremism from its ranks. This was in an article reporting the removal of a prize winning essay from a defence website because it advocated less woke diversity and more exclusive warrior focus.<br /><br />A less warrior like Army will do marvelously I am sure.Ricardohttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05840390411136437843noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-8442430064359197279.post-35407913802362870582021-07-07T12:41:36.112+12:002021-07-07T12:41:36.112+12:00I wonder how much money Netball NZ commits to men’...I wonder how much money Netball NZ commits to men’s sport? Actually I hope it’s none but that’s not the point. According to people like Stephenson they should be spending at least 50% of the budget on encouraging netball for men. Well, at least the men would be able to put on a competitive show vs the women, unlike women playing rugby.Max Ritchiehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/09700377308425417842noreply@blogger.com