Friday, November 17, 2023

Those coalition talks: so far, so bad

The coalition talks are playing out just as might have been predicted. Or to put it another way: so far, so bad.

Right from the outset the omens didn’t look good when it was revealed that Winston Peters hadn’t responded to David Seymour’s attempts to make contact. Did anyone really believe that Peters refused to answer a text from the ACT leader because he thought it might be a scam?

Even in the unlikely event that the explanation was true, what did it say about Peters’ commitment to the coalition-forming process that he couldn’t be bothered checking? Or that his staff hadn’t ensured he had Seymour’s number stored in his phone the moment it became clear the three party leaders would need to talk to each other?

A more plausible explanation for this failure to communicate (to borrow a famous line from Cool Hand Luke) was that Peters was just being Peters: putting Seymour in his place and letting him know who was boss. In other words, indulging in gamesmanship – as you do when your name is Winston Raymond Peters. This was entirely in line with Peters’ character and history.

For his part, Seymour was paying the price for his many dismissive comments, dating back years, about Peters and NZ First. They included his description of Peters as “the least trustworthy person in New Zealand politics”.

If the ACT leader has a politically problematical flaw, it’s his propensity to say what he thinks without regard for the possible consequences. Under MMP, you never know who you’re going to end up having to pretend you’re friendly with – and no one holds a grudge like Peters.

The NZ First leader doesn’t have the same power in these talks as he did in 2017. As Pattrick Smellie pointed out on BusinessDesk shortly after the election, he’s no longer the kingmaker. Having to work with the centre-right fundamentally changed Peters’ negotiating position from his usual dance (as Smellie put it) between National and Labour, playing one side off against the other. But that didn’t stop him from playing hard to get or deny him the chance to throw a few spanners into the works.

And so we then had the pantomime of Peters staying in Auckland this week when everyone expected him in Wellington for further coalition talks. This time it was on the pretext that a mysterious VIP visitor from the Pacific leaders’ forum was passing through Auckland and wanted to see him – a person so important, apparently, that his visit necessitated a further delay in negotiations on the formation of a government.

If true, that again says something about Peters’ priorities. Alternatively, it was more gamesmanship.

The latter is far more likely. Certainly, Peters’ no-show has been portrayed in the media as a deliberate snub and, in Tova O’Brien’s words (yes, I’m quoting Tova O’Brien) a humiliating display of political brinkmanship aimed squarely at Christopher Luxon, who was forced to spend the day cooling his heels before flying back to Auckland.

On top of all this we are now told, by Matthew Hooton in today’s Herald, that the coalition talks were almost stillborn because of Luxon’s assumption that he would be calling all the shots. According to Hooton, the prime minister-elect went into the talks with little regard for what the other parties might want.

“Act, NZ First and National insiders say Luxon is a talker rather than a listener,” Hooton wrote. “He never asked how Act or NZ First thought negotiations should proceed, or what they wanted from them.”

This is not a clever approach when you’re dealing with someone as touchy as Peters or as seriously ambitious for his party as Seymour. Even allowing for Hooton’s obvious animosity toward Luxon, his column, even if only half accurate, gives no cause for optimism about the solidity of the putative new government’s foundations.

Observing this masquerade, it’s hard not to be reminded of the old joke about a camel being a horse designed by a committee. As in the coalition talks, the bits just don’t fit together.

We have three parties with different cultures, different ideologies and different priorities. And no matter how desperately Luxon and Seymour try to sound positive, it stretches credulity to think the parties can overcome their fundamental compatibility issues and form a “strong, stable government”.

Simply repeating that phrase ad nauseam, as Luxon does, doesn’t magically make it happen. Short of the return of Labour and the Greens, this ragtag and bobtail arrangement is arguably the worst possible election outcome.

We’re supposed to believe that the advent of MMP ushered in a glorious new era of compromise and consensus. MMP’s bright-eyed promoters – predominantly leftists frustrated by New Zealanders’ annoying habit of electing centre-right governments – told us so. In fact MMP, because it yokes together parties with conflicting objectives, is too often a formula for political paralysis and inertia that leaves all players vaguely dissatisfied.

The first-past-the-post system it replaced was, by common consent, flawed. But it had the singular advantage that the electors knew what they were voting for and that whatever government was elected was free to push ahead with its agenda unhindered by minor parties.

Contrast that with a situation where all bets are off once the election result is declared and no one knows which policies and promises are going to survive the secretive coalition talks. At worst, this renders the entire business of election campaigns meaningless.

Arguably even worse, in terms of respect for democratic values, is the spectacle of a minor party (NZ First won only 6 per cent of the party vote) again wielding wholly disproportionate power and even dictating the course of negotiations.

Should we then revert to the FPTP system? Not necessarily. The past three years stand as a cautionary tale of what can happen when a government is given absolute power. In my lifetime, no government – not even that of Robert Muldoon – has done more damage than that of Jacinda Ardern.

But we should remind ourselves that New Zealand was competently governed for much of its history by parties elected under the FPTP system – certainly no less competently, and arguably with a lot more stability, than since 1996.

FPTP had the virtues of clarity, certainty and finality. Who would say that about the current opaque post-election manoeuvrings? And given the history of one of the personalities involved, who could have much confidence that whatever hotchpotch government emerges will go the distance?


17 comments:

Gary Peters said...

I have said from day 1 that if Winston is the answer then it's a bloody stupid question.

At no stage in his career has he ever shown that he is in the "game" to better his country and despite all the promoting for him done by a few bloggers for wahaever reasons he is still there for Winston first second and last.

Like many, I would prefer that we end this travesty now, lay the negotiations wide open for all to see and call another election.

Let the cards fall where they may but since October we have seen the trues antisemitic hatred from the greens and the selfishness of Winston Peters so I have a feeling that the outcome may be entirely different this time.

And maybe, for once, the electoral commission can get it right this time and look more carefully at those "specials".

LNF said...

Yes the last Government is the worst Government NZ has seen.
The Key Government was capable but having said that put in place some very dangerous and divisive bits. UNDRIP and the Seabed legislation all done with "Means nothing" and it turns out means an awful lot
Peters was voted in to give the new Government some grunt. Luxon gives the impression of not rocking the boat and not having the courage to really make positive change. And has an odour of Key about him. Seymour might talk the talk but not sure of the walk the walk bit
So if there looks to be a bit of show boating with Winston - well I am happy with that so long as we get NZ off this path that has "what a mess" all over it

Anonymous said...

National and Labour should form a coalition, their policies largely align and they have the two largest blocks of votes.

Of course, that would pierce the carefully played fiction that there's a difference between them.

Eamon Sloan said...

Maybe it is time to remind ourselves that all political activity needs some degree of theatricality to gain and maintain the public’s attention. I try not to be influenced too much by histrionics and headline making. I voted NZ First for the reasons of wanting change and for a method of providing a brake on some of the unpalatable National/ACT policies.

The media circus has put excessive effort into portraying Winston Peters as some type of malevolent ringmaster. How much do we know about any of National’s demands which might not be acceptable to ACT or NZ First? In a three way coalition there will always be roadblocks.

I am not bothered that a coalition agreement takes some extra time. Does it matter how much time is taken? Remember the old tagline – marry in haste but repent at leisure. Again the media darlings seem to be the ones stirring the pot and anything else available. Think in terms of instant gratification.

hughvane said...

I for one would be interested Karl in your view of STV as used in Australia.

For the record, I do not support the return of FPTP to our electoral system, but it is evident over the past six years - and longer - that MMP is a disgraced system, misused and abused by this country's political parties.

Houtman Abrolhos said...

NZ First got support for it's sane policies wrt ToW issues, and gender issues. Both National and sadly Act, were MIA on these issues, seemingly terrified of taking a stand on these "culture war" issues. National and Act could have sidelined NZ First by showing preparedness to stand up to threats and bullying from Maori and gender issues activists.

Tinman said...

The country looks better already.

The Civil "service" is pulling it's head in, some of the MSM are starting to report both sides, the level of official racism and the push towards apartheid has started to relax and inflation figures are dropping (very slowly).

Only the utter halfwits among the MSM are still rabbiting on in unintelligible gobbledygook.

The country is running itself amazingly well.

You even see the odd smile on the streets.

All because the nutbars are scared for their over-paid, under-worked jobs under the up-coming agreements.

Let the negotiations continue.

After three years of coalition talks New Zealand will be far closer to nirvana.

Phil Blackwell

Andy Espersen said...

You write : "In my lifetime, no government – not even that of Robert Muldoon – has done more damage than that of Jacinda Ardern."

I couldn't agree more. But that was the only government since the beginning of our MMP system which was NOT a coalition government.

Fact is that all coalition governments in New Zealand have been eminently stable - and most of these have had Winston Peters in them.

So fact is that Winston always has proved to be a stabilising factor in our governments.

And fact is that whatever responsible big "bauble of office" he has shouldered as a full Minister of the Crown, he has always been eminently capable, diligent and conscientious.

Huskynut said...

I dunno.. there are certainly some complex negotiations going on, but I'm more inclined toward Slaters view that Peters and Seymour are enjoying some utu on the msm: https://thebfd.co.nz/2023/11/17/petty-and-immature-you-say/

pdm said...

From what I have read, largely speculative I must admit, and heard (again speculative) National and ACT pretty much have a Coalition agreement as it relates to their two parties.

Peters therefore seems to (again) be the hold up and as I have said elsewhere surely it is time Luxon gave him the message that he is number 3 in the pecking order of this new coalition set up. If Peters packs a sad and goes to the cross benches too bad, there are no baubles and slush funds there.

BTW I support STV and voted for that in the referendum in the mid to early 90's. Leighton Smith actually sold me on it and after a bit of research I was pretty sure he was on the right track. MMP has proved to be a dog - with Peters as its tail - over 27 years and now 10 elections by my count.

ihcpcoro said...

In effect, we had a first past the post government elected in 2020. Most of us have had the hell scared out of us by a government that well understood power (in their terms) but chose to ignore the democratic responsibilities associated with that power. Maybe the Swiss have some answers for us. 'New Zealand, the Switzerland of the South Pacific' has a pretty good ring to it, I reckon.

Doug Longmire said...

ihcpcoro - in fact "New Zealand - the Zimbabwe of the South Pacific" is actually a more accurate description of where we are currently.
This is due to almost 6 years of the previous Child Povvidy Minister, ex leader of the world junior communist party, Dame Cindy's appalling rule.

Ben Thomas said...

What we do not know is what is happening behind the scenes. The LP, GP, MP could stitch together a coalition with NZF. I would not trust for a moment Peters' utterances that NZF would never go with Labour. If the offer is good enough, see WP making a smart uturn.

Huskynut said...

Cranmer weighs in on the delays: https://open.substack.com/pub/cranmer/p/coalition-talks-marry-in-haste-repent?r=1cx8fs&utm_campaign=post&utm_medium=email

Anonymous said...

It's disgraceful that New Zealanders are once again held hostage by a charlatan. M M P is destroying this country.

Andy Espersen said...

With all due respect, Karl – I think you have got this quite wrong. Your catchy headline should have been : “ So far – so good”. The more I contemplate what is happening – the happier I am.

In full seriousness Luxon is attempting to form a completely firm, united three-party coalition (from all quite different parties, really) – with each and every controversial political decision and cabinet post agreed to beforehand. It has never before been done in New Zealand (nor, I doubt, in many other MMP-system democracies).

Here, in effect, is your much admired two-party system back for the next three years! Top marks to you, Christopher Luxon – if you succeed. And it would appear it is now a done deal - according to news reports.

Karl du Fresne said...

You may be right, Andy. I hope you are, for the sake of the country. We shall see.